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    Here's art critic Jerry Saltz on Kincades work.

    http://www.vulture.com/2012/04/jerry...1958-2012.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    I can't do what he did either from the artistic aspect or the financial aspect. Can any of you critics best him? And, by the way, what are the critics' credentials here?

    This absolutely looks like jealousy to me. As I stated before I didn't care for his work but he made many people happy and he became filthy rich for it.

    Jealousy...
    You're starting to troll.

    A number of us have explained our position and that has to do with his banal paintings, but mostly has to do with his assembly line work and his business practices.

    Stating "jealous" in each of your posts, when that aspect has been explained to you is merely trolling for a reaction.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdotkling View Post
    Gotta admit, I love the financial bunko aspect of all this. Maybe it WAS art....a kind of performance art for the Wall Street rip-off goo-goo-fundamentalist anti-intellectual kitsch-swilling early 21st Century America-in-decline reality we all inhabit. Heck of a sentence, that.
    I think you nailed it.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    I can't do what he did either from the artistic aspect or the financial aspect. Can any of you critics best him? And, by the way, what are the critics' credentials here?

    This absolutely looks like jealousy to me. As I stated before I didn't care for his work but he made many people happy and he became filthy rich for it.

    Jealousy...

    Not that it means much but I am a senior art student. I look at and make art on a daily basis. I paint nearly every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    You nailed it.
    Who's the "troll"? One with something positive to say about another person... or one with something negative to say?

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    I think O-N-F is the reincarnation of TK.

    Personally, I have said not much about the poor bastard. His work sucks, his business plan sucks. Period.

    Me? I have achieved partially what I wanted to do.. I please MYSELF. Partially? I ain't dead yet.

    Unlike TK.

    RIP.

    And yes, his family will laugh all the way to the bank. But his crap is still crap.

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    Credentials? In the case of Kinkade, the "absence" of credentials makes one more qualified to pass judgment than being a credentialed critic. After all, he was fond of doing a Palin-esque "oooh- look at the liberal establishment, oppressing the masses" plaint whenever anyone challenged his work on artistic merits.

    As for credentials for myself to critique, well, I've spent quite a bit of time looking at original works of art in places like the National Gallery of Art (DC), The Metropolitan Museum of Art (NY), the Prado (Madrid), the Uffizi (Florence), to name a few. I also did a series of studies of Renaissance painting and drawing as part of my interdisciplinary Renaissance studies program at Johns Hopkins University, where I got my bachelors degree, and completed seven graduate-level courses in photography at Maryland Institute College of Art.

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    I think Thomas Kinkade went to UC Berkeley and to the Art Center in Pasadena. The Art Center, correct me if I'm wrong is primarily a school for commercial art. I worked for a few photographers that went there. It's an excellent school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1330349
    Gotta admit, I love the financial bunko aspect of all this. Maybe it WAS art....a kind of performance art for the Wall Street rip-off goo-goo-fundamentalist anti-intellectual kitsch-swilling early 21st Century America-in-decline reality we all inhabit. Heck of a sentence, that.
    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    I think you nailed it.
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    I can't believe* we have here a 17-page thread on whether Kinkade was "Art" with a capital A. From the Saltz/Vulture piece:
    The reason the art world doesn't respond to Kinkade is because none — not one — of his ideas about subject-matter, surface, color, composition, touch, scale, form, or skill is remotely original. They're all cliché and already told.
    Can we not separate the concepts of "painting" and "art"? He sold interior decorations and he was highly successful at it; just because he sold paintings doesn't mean he meant for them to be capital-A Art. He didn't claim to be breaking new ground or anything, he painted (or had people paint) things to make his customers happy, and it worked extremely well for him. What amuses me is that this so offends the self-proclaimed "art world", that someone dare to use a medium they hold dear for something other than pushing an envelope or whatever, that there is a collective urge to hate on Kinkade and his output.

    And why the hate here? I see a hell of a lot of cliched barn / lighthouse / sunset photos even on APUG that fall way short of the standards that people seem to want to apply to Kinkade (seemingly only because he chose paint as his medium), yet we don't beat up on APUGgers in the gallery because why? Because they're not financially successful and therefore worthy of jealousy? We recognise the Art-vs-interior-decoration distinction in considering our own work and deciding what to put on the loungeroom wall, why get angsty when someone else does the same?


    * yeah OK, this is APUG. I believe it.



 

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