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    CCW stands for CARRY CONCEALED WEAPON. In San Diego County they are issued through the Sheriff's office and they have some pretty strict requirements. Even retired law enforcement officers, in California, are required to reapply every 5 years to retain their ability to carry (if they want it to apply to all 50 states they must also pass a qualify shoot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Nelson View Post
    CCW stands for CARRY CONCEALED WEAPON.
    Oh. That's the last thing I want!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Nelson View Post
    if they want it to apply to all 50 states they must also pass a qualify shoot.
    Shouldn't that be a requirement for anyone anywhere who wants a gun?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    Oh. That's the last thing I want!



    Shouldn't that be a requirement for anyone anywhere who wants a gun?


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    I thought it meant 'counter-clockwise'. Widdershins for the analog life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    It's a bit easier here as you are not technically trespassing until the owner of the land/building has asked you to leave and you have refused.
    Even if it's an abandoned building surrounded by a six-foot fence topped with razor wire? If you get caught in the wire, are they also obliged to leave you there so they don't interfere with you?

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    That's an ethical question rather than a legal one. It is however the owner's responsibility if someone is hurt either on razor wire or elsewhere on the property as property owners have a duty of care to anyone on their property - even those un-invited guests!

    However, if it's surrounded by a six foot fence (or locked doors) and you have to break something to get in, the law of 'Breaking and Entering' comes into play which is separate from trespass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    ... However, if it's surrounded by a six foot fence (or locked doors) and you have to break something to get in, the law of 'Breaking and Entering' comes into play which is separate from trespass.


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    Steve,
    You are right. I have been Talked Too by the locals about what Breaking and Entering is when I wander into a building. Something I do not do very often.

    Earlier in the thread there was mention about trying to show areas like Detroit in a more favorable light. That really does sound like a bigger challenge.

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    Wow. I wish I lived in England. haha. I love exploring and shooting abandoned places. It would be awesome to be able to do so without having to worry about being caught by the police but then again that is part of the excitement. I haven't gone outside of PA but I would like to. I hear MA is filled with creepy abandoned places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    Oh. That's the last thing I want!



    Shouldn't that be a requirement for anyone anywhere who wants a gun?


    Steve.
    I thought it meant 'counter-clockwise'. Widdershins for the analog life.

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    Yes, I guess I am just too darn ethical in regard to trespass signs and too protective of my physical well-being to indulge in serious exploration. I am fascinated by old decaying industrial buildings and infrastructure, but I have seen stamped steel industrial stair treads that were completely rusted through. So when you walk into a building that has seen no use, and maybe no maintenance, for decades, you quite literally take your life in your hands. It surprising in fact how fast some stuff deteriorates, especially when there is no longer HVAC operating.

    There was an incident a year or so back near here where a roofing contractor VP was up on the roof of an old boiler house at a private school, instructing two workers on what they were to do on a repair project. As they surveyed the scene, a section of the roof collapsed into a former coal bin. The VP, wearing no safety gear ("the boss"), died from his injuries. The workers had life lines and protective gear on and one of them, though he fell, at least survived, albeit with some injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daleeman View Post
    Steve,
    You are right. I have been Talked Too by the locals about what Breaking and Entering is when I wander into a building. Something I do not do very often.

    Earlier in the thread there was mention about trying to show areas like Detroit in a more favorable light. That really does sound like a bigger challenge.
    Lee, I think I may have been on one of those shoots with you.

    I recall someone mentioning that the best disguise for getting past the locals on an outing such as this is an orange vest, white hard hat, and a clipboard.
    Tom, on Point Pelee, Canada

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