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    I just corrected that -- we are safe...for now.
    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    Actually instead of flopping the negative, try turning the enlarger inside out. That way the image goes in the other direction but without all the other problems.
    An inverted imaging tool does not equal a mirrored image. Sorry, but your theory does not qualify as there is no longer balance. You're actually flirting with anti-matter to appear, black holes and what-not, and believe me you're not doing anybody any favors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    On the subject of flipping, if I take a picture with some human action across the frame, it generally looks correct with more space on the right. As I live in the Western Hemisphere, I take it this is influenced by the fact that I read text left to right? If I was from an Eastern Country where text is read right to left, would such a picture seem to have a better composition when flipped?
    (Blanksy - note flipped not flopped)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flopped_image
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    A flopped image is a static or moving image that is generated by a mirror-reversal of an original across a vertical axis (as opposed to flipping across the horizontal axis). Flopping can be used to improve the subjective aesthetic appeal of the image in question.

    Blansky, yes, but the OP was about flipping in a horizontal axis.

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    Short answer, yes.
    With the negative in the carrier reversed, at the scanning stage, the image will be displayed in its correct orientation in preview. At least that is in my wide experience! There is no harm in taking a different view of an image and sometimes it can have its own special appeal.


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    technically i see no problem with it,and anyway, it's your negative, so, you can do what you like or prefer with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    Blansky, yes, but the OP was about flipping in a horizontal axis.
    It sees to me that the OP was about flipping around a vertical axis (i.e. flopping). Wouldn't flipping around an horizontal axis put the boy's feet up and the church at the bottom of the picture? Or am I missing something?

    Fabrizio

    PS The flopping voice of Wikipedia is interesting but the taboo in certain countries about eating with the left hand has nothing to do with religion (Muslim or otherwise). You shouldn't eat with your left hand because it is the "impure" hand. I let you the guessing exercise about why it is "impure"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    A flopped image is a static or moving image that is generated by a mirror-reversal of an original across a vertical axis (as opposed to flipping across the horizontal axis). Flopping can be used to improve the subjective aesthetic appeal of the image in question.

    Blansky, yes, but the OP was about flipping in a horizontal axis.
    Through the years we've always called putting the negative in emulsion side up as flopping the neg. After reading the Wikipedia article I'm not sure what the difference is. When you put the neg in emulsion side up you get a mirror image. They talk about a car being a reversal of left hand vs right hand drive which is what you get when you flop or insert the neg emulsion up.

    The OP put the neg in emulsion up which is what we called flopping. In fact I've never heard of flipping.

    One of the smart people can maybe explain it.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    im not sure what the difference is,
    maybe david knows?

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    I would have called it flipping if I hadn't read this, unless someone else called it flopping then I'd know what they meant to. Bottom line is that reversing about a horizontal axis simply results in an image that is upside down - maybe fine for some abstracts but you can also just turn the print that way if you want. Either flipping or flopping or reversing or mirror imaging or...whatever, turns into a quibble over semantics when everyone already knows darned well what you mean.
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