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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    He doesn't seem to have the talent and discipline to make his own images, so he manipulates another's and calls the result "original". The dump I took the morning is "original" in the same sense.
    Actually starting with something known provides a social context.

    I'd contend that we all steal ideas, it is part of how creativity works. We build on what others have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt View Post
    Actually starting with something known provides a social context.

    I'd contend that we all steal ideas, it is part of how creativity works. We build on what others have done.
    I'd probably agree.

    The concept is interesting and only works with known or iconic images.

    But he has to have permission. He can't steal the images.

    That's the only caveat for me.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    musicians have been doing this for decades

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    Mark - Using the definition Kirby Ferguson came up with (copy, transform, combine), this could be argued to be creative, now is it art, that is a whole other matter (legal too, ie fair use)..

    http://vimeo.com/kirbyferguson/everythingisaremix3
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    This comes down to a "Fair Use" question. Essentially, is it different enough to constitute something new?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_us...he_copied_work

    I'd say it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    musicians have been doing this for decades
    For sure, check out Ferguson's video 1....

    http://vimeo.com/14912890
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    musicians have been doing this for decades
    The fashion industry too.
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    architects do this all the time as well ...

    hh richardson in the 1800s invented the richardson romanesque style
    using assyrian arches &c. he borrowed towers and "motifs" from churches
    ineurope and "scaled" them down to work with the buildings he was building.
    most notably he did this with the trinity church in copley square, boston,
    and to this day that building is noted as being one of the greatest american churches ever built..

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    Creative but just a bit late. http://jowharaalsaud.com/section/168752_2008.html She has been doing this for awhile

    But these are her own photographs

    Appropriation art is just poor excuse for no talent. Again all concept and little actual craft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkroom317 View Post

    Appropriation art is just poor excuse for no talent. Again all concept and little actual craft.
    not sure about that ...

    mozart appropriated just as kanye west does,
    just like braque, picasso and banksy does today.

    photographers photograph someone else's architecture, or do a detail of an architectural element, they appropriate that as well.

    industrial designers do it all the time as well ...
    not sure if it has anything to do with lack of talent ...
    unless the newly created art, is bad

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