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    Quote Originally Posted by steven_e007 View Post
    They're all so scruffy and stained! - this must mean something really deep and profound...
    See, if you expect this from the photographs, you will be disappointed. No one's asserting that they're deep, profound, meaningful, besides you. I think the whole point of art is that you aren't supposed to bring your expectations to it, you're supposed to take it for what it is.

    And sometimes, it's not much more than a picture of a stained tray.

    Ever heard of wabi sabi?
    If you are the big tree, we are the small axe

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    I remember I saw a show in Chicago of W. Eugene Smith. There was a display of his tacking iron on display. The plastic cover was off for one reason or another. I got the sticky finger urge. But I stopped myself because it was bad photo karma. BTW it was a great show.

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    It's all akin to the search for the grail for some people.

    The search for the Holy Tray.

    Some people need to ascribe significance to objects used by the heroes of their mythology. In fact imagine a gallery showing of prints with the respective tray underneath the print. Some people would have an orgasm. When in fact the photographer treated the tray as just what it was. A tray. Others would attach religious significance to it.

    Humans are funny.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    My only point is that the photographer has taken a very singular idea and done a nice job of bringing it to fruition. He appears to have completed his work, and here it is, for what it is. A document of a bygone era, with the added bonus of having a visual continuity that is in many instances beautiful, and at the very least interesting.

    Beyond that, I don't see anyone giving it reverential significance, nor is it exciting thy loins. (ok, well maybe a bit...)

    All I'm trying to say is that a critic is able to take something and work backwards, deriding the artist's intentions and supplanting a simple, noble idea with something corrupted; i.e. hero worship.

    Not to say that some artists don't begin with innoble ideas.

    Look, I think we're all upset that our trays weren't featured....
    If you are the big tree, we are the small axe

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmburgers View Post
    My only point is that the photographer has taken a very singular idea and done a nice job of bringing it to fruition. He appears to have completed his work, and here it is, for what it is. A document of a bygone era, with the added bonus of having a visual continuity that is in many instances beautiful, and at the very least interesting.

    Beyond that, I don't see anyone giving it reverential significance, nor is it exciting thy loins. (ok, well maybe a bit...)

    All I'm trying to say is that a critic is able to take something and work backwards, deriding the artist's intentions and supplanting a simple, noble idea with something corrupted; i.e. hero worship.

    Not to say that some artists don't begin with innoble ideas.

    Look, I think we're all upset that our trays weren't featured....
    I agree. He did a great job. And it IS interesting. But I'm often surprised at how some people attach WAY to much significance to these type of things.

    This is something like sports memorabilia. People will pay hundreds of thousands for a ball that ???? hit over the fence to win ????World Series or Wayne Gretzky's hockey stick that snapped in ??????goal.

    When in fact, it is no different that 1 million other baseballs or one of the thousands of sticks Gretzky used. And often for instance during certain games Gretzky would used dozens of sticks during a memorable game like his last one. "Hey look, I have the stick from Gretzky's last game. And it only cost me $60,000 on ebay".

    The dozens of pens that people cherish that a President uses to sign some significant document. 10 pens for one signature??

    But I absolutely agree, the trays were an interesting idea, but I'm still gonna cringe when they are up for auction for $10,000 a piece.
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    Bottom line it's fetishism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmburgers View Post

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    Yes. It's that green hot stuff you squirt on Japanese food.
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    This is reliquary, using objects that have belonged to the saints as items of devotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    While rather interesting it's much like photographing the penis of the father of a family of famous people.
    Here's hoping his next project involves Porn Stars and their tools of the trade

    I thought it was good - to me, it humanizes it to a degree. These are their most fundamental print producing tools and shock, horror, they are just like mine and yours (and just as stained, as it appears).

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    If you look on the internet..

    Quote Originally Posted by hoffy View Post
    Here's hoping his next project involves Porn Stars and their tools of the trade

    I thought it was good - to me, it humanizes it to a degree. These are their most fundamental print producing tools and shock, horror, they are just like mine and yours (and just as stained, as it appears).
    If you look on the internet, it's probably been done. Timothy Greenfield Sanders have shot porn stars. Though I'm not really a fan of his work, these portraits shows their human side. There are usually 2 shots. One shot with clothes and the other naked. I know some find porn distasteful, but it's a worth a look.

    You can buy it on Amazon:
    http://www.amazon.com/XXX-Porn-Star-.../dp/0821277545

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