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    Before you all throw your hats in the air, are terrorists doing a photo recce. for a forthcoming major attack on Washington also protected by the first amendment ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjiboy View Post
    are terrorists doing a photo recce. for a forthcoming major attack on Washington also protected by the first amendment ?
    I hope so. The law should apply to all equally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    I hope so. The law should apply to all equally.


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    As should the presumption of innocence.
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    Benji - they don't have to do another photo recce. They've already done many. If they're doing more, they're doing it clandestinely, not with tripods and view cameras. Or even with film SLRs. It'll be digital happy-snaps taken on the fly. This is not a good argument for abridging the 1st Amendment. As Benjamin Franklin so aptly put it (I'm paraphrasing here), "Anyone who would trade liberty for security deserves neither".
    Last edited by TheFlyingCamera; 07-25-2012 at 11:27 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjiboy View Post
    Before you all throw your hats in the air, are terrorists doing a photo recce. for a forthcoming major attack on Washington also protected by the first amendment ?
    Yep, absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
    Benji - they don't have to do another photo recce. They've already done many. If they're doing more, they're doing it clandestinely, not with tripods and view cameras. Or even with film SLRs. It'll be digital happy-snaps taken on the fly. This is not a good argument for abridging the 1st Amendment. As Benjamin Franklin so aptly put it (I'm paraphrasing here), "Anyone who would trade liberty for security deserves neither".
    And google maps street view.

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    Willie Jan, how dare you try to insinuate that Holland is part of the 'free world' and the mightly USA is NOT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjiboy View Post
    Before you all throw your hats in the air, are terrorists doing a photo recce. for a forthcoming major attack on Washington also protected by the first amendment ?
    If I wanted to get pictures of a place to attack it I'd just use a smartphone. I could take hundreds of shots everywhere and be hardly noticed, if at all. From above there's Google maps and numerous other aerial photography sites.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Someone should do a series of photographs on these interrogations.

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