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    Pedantic question about standardisation

    In England we usually and historically refer to 5 X 4 and not 4 X 5. Is 4 X 5 an Americanism? Does most of Europe say 5 X 4 or 4 X 5? However, I like the way they spell colour without the u in America. Do others have views about some of these pedantic differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    In England we usually and historically refer to 5 X 4 and not 4 X 5. Is 4 X 5 an Americanism? Does most of Europe say 5 X 4 or 4 X 5? However, I like the way they spell colour without the u in America. Do others have views about some of these pedantic differences?
    As usual America bastardized the language.

    In theory we call a vertical, a 4x5 and a horizontal a 5x4.

    Although since most Americans are barely educated even with a college degree, we call an 8x10 (vertical) portrait format, and a 10x8, an 8x10 landscape format.

    So a horizontal 10x8 print is called 8x10 landscape even if it's a portrait.

    Although we do know that a car does not wear a boot or a bonnet and we correctly refer to them as a trunk and a hood.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    i always say 5x4 (5,4) it seems to roll off the tongue easier

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    Maybe it comes from the Printing Trade? I noticed that all the paper sizes in my US references are quoted with the shortest dimension first. This has no relation to the grain, which is indicated independently (either with an underline or the phrase "grain long" or "grain short").

    If this has any relation...

    What size is A4 paper?

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    Why not call a faucet a tap? It is a more simple name and have the USA ever thought about going metric? It makes more sense.

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    Ha....this is a tap in the States:
    http://img5.foodservicewarehouse.com...ndles-2483.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    Why not call a faucet a tap? It is a more simple name and have the USA ever thought about going metric? It makes more sense.
    Because then we would have to admit someone else is right...

    Metric! Our money is metric, that's all that is needed. We tried going metric once. All that meant was having to own two sets of tools to work on one stupid car. And one very expensive Mars probe augering into the planet. We know how far a mile is. When we try to make it meteres we bump into things... Like the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burk View Post
    Maybe it comes from the Printing Trade? I noticed that all the paper sizes in my US references are quoted with the shortest dimension first. This has no relation to the grain, which is indicated independently (either with an underline or the phrase "grain long" or "grain short").

    If this has any relation...

    What size is A4 paper?
    210 × 297mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    Why not call a faucet a tap? It is a more simple name and have the USA ever thought about going metric? It makes more sense.
    a faucet would be called a sillcock, but
    we don't use that expression anymore ...

    the only time to a tap is suggested to be a sillcock
    is in the word cocktail ...

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    I also recall when I worked on a European-designed typesetting machine, the language had me specify the vertical dimension first, followed by the horizontal dimension. So when I would created a 9 1/2 inch x 11 inch continuous form design (that ran on a web press with perfs at every 11 inches), I had to key the size as 11 x 9 1/2.

    So my next question would be, when you specify 5x4...

    Are you doing it because you are specifying the long dimension first?

    Or are you specifying the height first?

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