Skeletons in a closet now?
Along with all my anxieties.
“You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
+1 Event though 98% of my income is from digital capture... the work I do and the work that matters most to me is captured on silver crystals, and I working on a business plan for that. These digital shooters that keep opening studios are all looking very much the same.
Originally Posted by tkamiya
There is useful expense and then there is useless expense. Now, I don't mean that in a strict sense of useful or useless, so perhaps productive and unproductive, but even these are wrong. All hobbies are useful and productive as they promote relaxation, and improve our mental state.
But, take a hobby of Hi-Fi. The person invests a lot of money and in return hears relaxing music in exchange. But, when the unit is turned off, nothing remains but the memory. With Photography, there is the creativity and fun of setup and taking a picture, there is the fun of processing and printing, and this provides relaxation. However, in the end, you have something in hand that can be shared and seen over and over again. You can make contact prints, enlargements, and derivative prints. With Hi-Fi, about all you can do is speed up the record, change the volume or tone, and perhaps get more recordings by the same artist.
So, the element of creating a product is inherent in photography which sets it apart from all other hobbies, and the money spent is "useful" or "productive" in that sense because you walk out of a session with something you made in your hand, that you can share with someone else.
I think that is the way we should look at the uniqueness of our shared hobby.
Well, that's true of any of the "arts and crafts" hobbies: painting, musical performance, woodworking, homemade explosives, whatever. But I'd agree with everything you said, in that broader scope.
Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
It's interesting that some of us intentionally pursue photographic products that are ephemeral, like in-camera "sun prints". Not sure if it says anything in general about the people who go in for that stuff, vs. the people who are heavily interested in making things archival.
Edit: Actually, I bet the hi-fi people would say that the real "product" of their money and energy is the system, not the music per se. So they too probably feel like they come away from it with something concrete in hand and the satisfaction of having built it themselves.
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Great points PE!
By the way, at my job we use the chemical phenoxyethanol. Our internal code for this is PE. I cant help but think of you every time I grab a bottle of PE now!!
all the time and effort involved in making 96 images for all of human history born before 19th century!
This would take you weeks of work! (Im talking here more of painting and drawing, but even with wet plates this would be a big effort.)
I think we all take the ability to make images whenever and wherever of whatever we like with so little trouble for granted!
You are right. I painted with too narrow a brush. Thank you for the correction.
The word Phenoxyethanol takes me back to grad school. I used it there for something, but I just cannot remember the use I made of it. One of these or related compounds had a very pleasant smell and was used in attar of roses while another related compound smelled like the monkey cage at the zoo. I just can't remember which ones. Too long ago and far away.
Phenoxy Ethanol (PE)
Phenoxyethanol has a very distinct smell. I like it but the Chinese hate it so I have to use it carefully. It has many uses but I use it for emulsion coupling as well as biostatic properties. Helps our emulsions blend into water nice and easy too.
Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
Ahhh, I did not know that you were doing emulsion work. PE is a good auxiliary solvent.