My favorite is from the nobel prize winner Konrad Lorenz
Originally Posted by NedL
"Philosophers are people who know less and less about more and more, until they know nothing about everything. Scientists are people who know more and more about less and less, until they know everything about nothing”
Something I tried to do as a child was to imagine nothing existing... not even a space for the nothingness to be in. I don't think our minds are capable of doing it.
Originally Posted by michaelbsc
"People who say things won't work are a dime a dozen. People who figure out how to make things work are worth a fortune" - Dave Rat.
Is time infinite? If it is then why are we not there already?
And theories of entropy say we'll cool to zero degrees kelvin and the universe will be in total darkness. The monkeys will be stuffed unless they know how to use a flash and the OP didn't give them one, thereby making it impossible for them to produce an image at infinity.
Honestly, I care about what you think, but I don't grasp it exactly.
Originally Posted by Dali
First, the difference, when talking about space, between "infinite space" and "space without limits". In my mind and I do believe in common parlance they are the same concept. I personally cannot conceive a "limit" to the universe so made that there is nothing "after" or "beyond" that limit. Not even, that is, the concept of "being empty". My mind - and I guess yours, really - cannot conceive such a thing. A sphere to me can always be inscribed in a cube. You think "a sphere" because you imagine its dimensional limits and somewhere something in which those dimensional limits exist.
Regarding gravity, of course it was observed by man since he was a monkey, with or without a Leica. Everybody observe that they fall. "Gravity" litterally means "being heavy". Weight is something that men, and animals, experience and know very well without need to go to University, or Elementary school for that matter.
Galileo gave us the law of gravity stating "weight" being the product of mass x speed of "fall", and showed us that "speed of fall" is independent from mass, and has uniform acceleration of 9.8 m/s*s. This equation is the base of the science known as ballistic and in general his equation is somehow everywhere in our scientific world. He naturally gave many other important contributions to mankind, stating various laws about motion, inertia, motion quantity and other concept which I forgot since long but that are at the base of our technology.
I would certainly not debate about the relative merits of Galilei and Newton. Newton was born just after Galilei died. Newton built upon what Galilei built. They are a giant on the shoulders of another giant. Newton gave us the laws of attraction of masses in the general case. Galilei gave us the law of attraction of masses when one mass (the Earth) is so hugely superior to the other mass (the "grave", and object with a weight) the the mass of the latter is negligible. Newton gave a generalization of Galilei laws, the law of reciprocal attraction of two masses (planets, stars). They are both giants and I don't see how can one think about ranking them. Newton, I am sure, would have never thought of himself as "better" than Galilei, and Einstein (or whoever) would never think of himself as "better" than Newton.
As Leonardo da Vinci said, "a poor disciple is he who doesn't overcome his master". The disciple "starts" by having all the knowledge of his master. It is his duty to add to that.
Both Newton and Galilei gave convincing repeatable demonstrations of their equations. Their scientific discoveries form the base of all our technological progress of the last centuries.
Most of those last century's hypothesis about the universe are, on the other hand, as far as I know, resting entirely on mathematics. We have plenty of astronomical theories that do not have, possibly do not seek by evident impossibility to seek, an empirical test. They can be legitimately called "theories" or "hypothesis". Possibly brilliant and genial ones. But being confined in the realm of the hypothesis, I would not use the indicative mode of any language to express their thesis. Indicative is the mode of certitude.
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Because it takes time! Because it is time, and thus it is non-compressible by definition. You can't travel through time. You can't squeeze or zip or distill or bulk it. You cannot go backward in time by solving some mathematical equations (as Stephen Hawking says, showing that one can be a genius and still talk nonsense).
Originally Posted by litody
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so giving the monkeys an infinite amount of time to take their photos is a flawed concept.
I don't think our minds are capable of it either.
Originally Posted by Steve Smith
"Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it." Niels Bohr
"Atoms are not things." Werner Heisenberg
"You are not thinking. You are merely being logical." Niels Bohr to Albert Einstein
At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.
Originally Posted by Stephanie Brim
Q.: How much Woodchuck would Stephanie chuck if Stephanie chucked her Woodchuck?
A.#1: Depends on how much is in cider.
A.#2: A lot if she's Brimful.
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.