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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    If I gave an infinite number of Leica II cameras to an infinite amount of monkeys with an infinite supply of film. In an infinite amount of time, would they be able to produce a shot like the Puddle Jumper?
    No.

    #1, the monkey will not use the Leica as a camera.
    #2, the cameras will have decayed to nothing by the time the monkeys evolve into something that can intelligently use a camera.
    #3, there is no way a monkey will reload the film in a Leica II. Heck, even humans have a hard time with it. How Changing Film Cost One Photographer a Chance at an Iconic Vietnam War Photo

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    No, film will be long gone before they get round to doing it. Besides, who is going to teach them how to develop and print.

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    Monkey's can are doing art so why shouldn't they be able to do it. A monkey/ape in the viennese Zoo used to paint until a few years ago. She still recognizes her work from 10 and 20 years ago, and if you turn the painting upside down or any other direction then they way she originaly painted it she will correct your mistake.

    Also they can already us a camera intelligently, I agree film loading might pose a problem though.

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    If you give infinite time, then there may not be any time left to review those infinite shots take by infinite monkeys.

    You can acheive something if you add little 'knowledge' to those finite monkeys with finite cameras.
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    Who's to say that many monkeys wouldn't collectively aspire to make a better photograph than puddle guy? Seems like an awful lot of resources. Hopefully they'd at least come up with Moonrise

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    If I gave an infinite number of Leica II cameras to an infinite amount of monkeys with an infinite supply of film. In an infinite amount of time, would they be able to produce a shot like the Puddle Jumper?
    Only with an infinite supply of puddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    How do you know?
    Because it fits the theory.

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    With Leica film cameras, maybe. With Leica digital they'd be too busy chimping....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dali View Post
    Because it fits the theory.
    Of course, we may never have the technology to actually know.

    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    If I gave an infinite number of Leica II cameras to an infinite amount of monkeys with an infinite supply of film. In an infinite amount of time, would they be able to produce a shot like the Puddle Jumper?
    No because photography requires too much reasoning. Besides, they would not write on APUG and we would never know (given an infinite amount of time they will write some Shakespearean prose, but will be no clue to us that they have produced another puddle jumper ).

    Possibly, given a decent and much less than infinite amount of monkey and a decent amount of colour and time they can create works of art which would be quite appreciated by some rich New York gallery client. Or, given some more time, they can certainly compose something with more musical meaning than the average Stockhausen production.

    The problem would come when, after all the expense and effort, you try to capitalize on your genius monkey (you will "market" it as your genius monkey). Animal protection group will eat you alive for exploiting the genius of the unsuspecting monkey, you will be fined for not having respected hours limits, you will have to pay an infinite amount of past contributions to private insurance and social security, and you'll probably will have to re-educate your monkey to non-painting to compensate it from the violent deprivation of its monkey-ness. You will then have to reintroduce it among its peers (somewhere between art critics or journalists writing about economics).

    I would not embark in such an endeavour.
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