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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    You obviously weren't here when that subject became somewhat "prominent".

    I wasn't. But its now added to my favorites... LOL

    I got the readers digest version from the creator.

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    His male nudes are awesome. Emil's female nudes are awesome.

    So much awesome, so little time.
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Robert James View Post
    To whomever used the word pornographic to describe Emil's photo- if you think calling someone's photograph "pornographic" is an opinion and not an insult you are the one that needs to reign it in. Insults are not opinions.
    I didn't use the term (I cannot see the Gallery) but I notice that, very interestingly, Gandolfi himself used the word "pornographic" to describe his pictures if I get his post #93 right. Frankly, I don't see anything wrong in pornography either. And "pornographic" is not necessarily an insult although for most people it is out of a prudish mentality.

    If I think something is objectionable, is the "stealing" of images if this is done without proper acknowledgement. (So much I actually went on the web and stole a lot of images, and then turned them into small multicoloured bromoils). Even when producing works of art which are derivatives of somebody else's work the original work must be at the very least quoted and if a profit is made out of the derivative work some part of this profit belongs to the author of the derivative work.
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    OK - you clearly didn't get my post right!!

    I said I had done some images with pornographic content, But those were NOT the ones I submitteed here - they are all mine..

    I also said after the bold quote you made, that I have not and will not upload any of these as they are not all mine!!

    Who do you really think I am? Do you really think I'd claim full ownership to images where I wasn't the photographer.... really?

    I used the images in question as tests to see whether this idea would be an idea to follow...

    Quote Originally Posted by Diapositivo View Post
    I didn't use the term (I cannot see the Gallery) but I notice that, very interestingly, Gandolfi himself used the word "pornographic" to describe his pictures if I get his post #93 right. Frankly, I don't see anything wrong in pornography either. And "pornographic" is not necessarily an insult although for most people it is out of a prudish mentality.

    If I think something is objectionable, is the "stealing" of images if this is done without proper acknowledgement. (So much I actually went on the web and stole a lot of images, and then turned them into small multicoloured bromoils). Even when producing works of art which are derivatives of somebody else's work the original work must be at the very least quoted and if a profit is made out of the derivative work some part of this profit belongs to the author of the derivative work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    I try to spend more time on the edge but most of my life is spent in a cage as a sex slave under the control of a group of Amazons.
    We want pictures!
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    OK - you clearly didn't get my post right!!

    I said I had done some images with pornographic content, But those were NOT the ones I submitteed here - they are all mine..

    I also said after the bold quote you made, that I have not and will not upload any of these as they are not all mine!!

    Who do you really think I am? Do you really think I'd claim full ownership to images where I wasn't the photographer.... really?

    I used the images in question as tests to see whether this idea would be an idea to follow...
    I'd hold back Emil.

    There's language barriers so possible misinterepretations.

    Ian

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    A wit once said that what distinguishes an artistic photo from a pornographic one is the presence of an urn or a plinth in the photo.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

    ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    There is supposedly a room at the Vatican with a cupboard full of penises hacked off statues by order of Pope Innocent X. I simply cannot believe that we are having (enduring) this discussion again. This is beyond ridiculous. Emil is one of the finest artists to have ever participated on this forum. Show some respect for your fellow photographers. Before you cast aspersions, look in your own mirror. You may find that the problem you see resides a LOT closer to home than the artist whose work offends you.
    Tom, on Point Pelee, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffle View Post
    There is supposedly a room at the Vatican with a cupboard full of penises hacked off statues by order of Pope Innocent X. I simply cannot believe that we are having (enduring) this discussion again. This is beyond ridiculous. Emil is one of the finest artists to have ever participated on this forum. Show some respect for your fellow photographers. Before you cast aspersions, look in your own mirror. You may find that the problem you see resides a LOT closer to home than the artist whose work offends you.
    I wanted to read that again

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    OK - you clearly didn't get my post right!!

    I said I had done some images with pornographic content, But those were NOT the ones I submitteed here - they are all mine..

    I also said after the bold quote you made, that I have not and will not upload any of these as they are not all mine!!

    Who do you really think I am? Do you really think I'd claim full ownership to images where I wasn't the photographer.... really?

    I used the images in question as tests to see whether this idea would be an idea to follow...
    The way I read your text, I understood that the "porn" images were the one you withdrew and that you had some "even more porn" ones that you would not post to the gallery in any case because they were too daring.

    Regarding ownership, I did not see your pictures and I was surprised by your use of the verb to steal, which ringed a bell in my mind. I'm glad to see that you did not perform any such action. Besides, "quoting" the original source is enough for most purposes.

    You may know that in some other photographic fora people actually openly admit using somebody else's work on the fallacious basis of "fair use" or something like that, so I wanted to "precautionally" raise this point, which I wouldn't have raised if you hadn't used that verb .
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