Erotic or Pornographic?

[Ian Grant]

Why don't we all just start posting nudes in this forum

~Stone

Last time I posted a nude in the Gallery I had quite a few of favourable comments but also PM's about the image. Some of those PM's said it's a nice image but would be better if the model had kept some clothes on, they were referring to some other images I'd posted as well.

Ian

[lxdude]

Last time I posted a nude in the Gallery I had quite a few of favourable comments but also PM's about the image. Some of those PM's said it's a nice image but would be better if the model had kept some clothes on

Ian

Self portraits, eh?

[StoneNYC]

Last time I posted a nude in the Gallery I had quite a few of favourable comments but also PM's about the image. Some of those PM's said it's a nice image but would be better if the model had kept some clothes on, they were referring to some other images I'd posted as well.

Ian

That was my point, to just stir the pot, honestly all this talk about the idea of what would be art and what would be porn with no given examples as references I find kind of obscure...

Self portraits, eh?

LOL!!

Also most of my nudes were made using that medium "that shall not be named" so I don't have much if anything to share, I only recently started shooting nudes on film so I literally have one roll processed, the other 10 are in the fridge still unprocessed, so someone else should share LOL


~Stone

The Noteworthy Ones - Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1 / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic

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[Jean Noire]

Maybe it was a San Franciscan that disliked Gandolfi's images :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20399164.

J

[Ian Grant]

That was my point, to just stir the pot, honestly all this talk about the idea of what would be art and what would be porn with no given examples as references I find kind of obscure...

This was the image I referred to:



Whether someone thinks an image like this is art, erotic or what ever is down to their own preceptions.

Ian

[StoneNYC]

This was the image I referred to:



Whether someone thinks an image like this is art, erotic or what ever is down to their own preceptions.

Ian

On wow that's nice, my first thought was "wow she has great hair!" LOL I didn't even look at her breasts / crotch first.

That hair is awesome haha

The only film image I have right now is this one...



And mine though from far away shows no actual parts, when blown up you can almost see her nether parts and is certainly more hinting at sex being in Bed.. But I don't consider mine to be pornographic either (it's also not my best work, I just grabbed a roll to process and see if the exposure was good).

To be honest when shooting with strobes I use my digital as a checker (like one would use a Polaroid) but it was damaged in the Hurricane so I had nothing to go on but my Sekonic Meter, yes this is of course how its done but it was a small room and I didn't want Otto LOOK as if it had been lit. (Can we tell I'm super uncomfortable posting my work and super particular?)

Anyway in my scene, I'm drawn more to the corner with all the neat old clocks lol.

Side note she is also not a model, but an ex lover and this was the first time I had seen her since she broke up web me 3 months prior, it was weird, first time shooting someone I had slept with, first time seeing her naked, and first time shooting a nude only on film. She also had a boyfriend at this point. I'm surprised I was able to figure out how to take a picture, and I've shot a LOT of nudes, but this was certainly more difficult.

ANYWAY point is, it anyone told me this was offensive I would tell them they were offensive, or blind, or ask if they were tested for a brain disorder recently...

I also support the idea that everyone is entitled to their opinion and we can't or shouldn't force our ideals onto them. So I accept the person who didn't like it, But I also don't want to miss out on seeing something beautiful because someone had a more narrow viewpoint than my own. And I don't think they should speak up about it, just like I wouldn't speak up about something I found boring or in poor taste, it's just not polite. "If ya don't have nuttin' nice to say, don't say nuttin' at all..."

Ok who's next?

PS where can I find that model with the hair? Hope she's near NY, I'm totally a model moocher when I see a good one haha.


~Stone

The Noteworthy Ones - Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1 / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic

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[jnanian]

John, your recollection of this issue is accurate. I was in the chat room that very evening.

you don't have a transcript and remember what happened ?! i am sure you are making all this stuff up ...

[Stephanie Brim]

I may actually have a transcript, but I'm not lugging that computer upstairs.

[jnanian]

I may actually have a transcript, but I'm not lugging that computer upstairs.

stephanie

no need to search,
you weren't there that night ... you would have remembered if you were ...
it was one of those moments ...

[Ian Grant]

It's time to move on from that chat room discussion because it wasn't on record here, the issues raised by the OP in this thread do need discussion though.

I can fully appreciate the reasons why Emil (Gandolfi) removed the images because of the way comments might be taken by the model(s). Back in the early 1980's my then girl friend had some unwanted harassment after someone saw some art nude shots of her. That was down to the narrow minded attitude of the viewer just like in this particular case, although in our case it was also the psychological state of the harasser the image wasn't explicit or even particulary revealing.

Ian