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    Erotic or Pornographic?

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    I prefer to make my own choices about what I see. I do not want others to make it for me, and I do not presume to do so for others...


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    Erotic or Pornographic?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    There are some people who find pictures of sweaty feet to be arousing. Is that erotic, pornographic, or just a picture of sweaty feet?
    Bahaha!! This made me burst out laughing and also is a great example in my opinion, it's all perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    All I know is that an image that I quite liked has been deleted from what I consider one of the very best galleries on this site offered up by a photographer and printer that I have the utmost in admiration and respect for.

    This, as a result of some narrow minded dolt who felt the need to create an issue where none was, and try to force their prudishness on everyone. The fact that they have been partially successful in disrupting the gallery irritates me to no end, and I would dearly like to know who it was.

    I have no tolerance for this. None. Zero.

    Emil, please post any image you feel like sharing, and please simply report harassment. I will personally see them out the door.

    Thanks.
    I couldn't have said it better than this, I fully agree and support exactly that mentality, I have no tolerance for others intolerance haha.

    And as an aside, I focus on a few different genre including landscape, fine art modeling, and "macro parts" photography, the last of which at its core is taking macro images of (mostly women but men are welcome to hire me) women's nipple/vagina/butthole's etc. this is paid work that I am hired for, they are mostly NOT models, nor porn industry people, but young women and moms who want to see themselves from a different and beautiful artistic perspective. And I would never consider what I do to be pornographic, it's certainly art... And I would be highly offended if someone pointed at it and said, that is porn, not because I think porn is bad, but because I know how others view porn, and how they don't hold it in high esteem the way they do other art. Then again, most people are small minded and can't see a bigger picture (I say this with some irony since the picture doesn't get much smaller than macro without a microscope) haha

    I support the open photo policy suggested, anything should be posts le as a creation no matter what it is, if the person created it with artistic intent, then it's valid, even if not "good art" by the viewer, it's still in some way art. As said earlier, it's about intent, and perspective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    All I know is that an image that I quite liked has been deleted from what I consider one of the very best galleries on this site offered up by a photographer and printer that I have the utmost in admiration and respect for.

    This, as a result of some narrow minded dolt who felt the need to create an issue where none was, and try to force their prudishness on everyone. The fact that they have been partially successful in disrupting some of the finest work in the gallery irritates me to no end, and I would dearly like to know who it was.

    I have no tolerance for this. None. Zero.

    Emil, please post any image you feel like sharing, and please simply report any harassment. I will personally see them out the door.

    Thanks.
    Interesting to note that the gallery complainer who complained of 'porn hiding behind the bromoil process' has not contributed to this thread...

    As I said in my original gallery post before the images were removed, I think the images were beautiful and not remotely pornographic. I also said I thought the complainer had fair warning of the content given the picture title 'Erotic Bromoil'. He then chose to open thumbnails with that title and be outraged...

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    Emil, I am very sad that you felt you had to take your images down. I saw them and thought they were superb. The use of colour in the bromoil process is enlightening, and this demonstration of what can be achieved is surely what the gallery is for - to inspire. I hear the comments that the gallery leans towards liberalism, and 100% concur. In Victorian England people went around putting fig leaves on classical greek and roman statues. It's a sad day if anyone is allowed to do this instead of looking away when they see something that they don't like but which is allowed by society at large.

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    Colour = porn, black and white = art.

    Simple!!!



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    I wonder if it would help, if the sidebar with the "latest photo" was either disabled by default or it was made to be known that it can be disabled. While I myself am not offended by erotic images, even then I'd prefer not to see them without my own consent. Browsing an art gallery can be understood to be such consent, but just reading a forum not -- at least not in my opinion.

    Regardless, I agree that there should space for erotic art in the gallery on this site. On the other hand, there should also be space for those people who for different reasons do not want to see such imagery and they should have that space without being called with derogatory names. I hope this site can be for those who are interested in analog photography, what ever their values, religion, ethnicity etc.

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    The sidebar can be disabled as such.
    I did so as I was offended by a long series of uploads.
    Those were pet-photos...

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    Ah, the internet. Full of cats and naked women.
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie Brim View Post
    Ah, the internet. Full of cats and naked women.
    There's a joke in that, but I'm not using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    Emil, please post any image you feel like sharing, and please simply report any harassment. I will personally see them out the door.

    Thanks.

    I find it disturbing that artists are encouraged to create work that stirs emotions and opinions, and then viewers who state such emotions or opinions are then threatened with a ban for doing so.


    A person stating that a photo is pornographic, is no different than the photographer who shot it stating that its art. Both are opinions, and both are equally entitled.



 

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