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    Emil, I very much liked the image I saw. I like all of your work very much. I'm envious of not only your artistic talent, insightful vision and technical expertise but of your ability to coax lovely ladies to pose for you.


    If we allow the minority to dictate what we say, do and share then we voluntarily hand over all power to them. This emboldens those who would censor and control us all. So I DEMAND that you re-post your images immediately!!

    I don't know if the private complaint you received was polite and a simple personal objection or a rude demand. The former is welcome. The latter is not. Be it either, I wish we all would ask for a consensus before censoring ourselves thereby depriving all of us of our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diapositivo View Post
    To "compensate" for the self-censorship I would like to posts two images

    (warning: human behaviour)
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diapositivo View Post
    The typical "harassment" (especially in the US or Northern Europe) would actually play the victim tune:

    The sensitive religious whose soul is wound:

    "As a mother of two children and as an observing [Christian | Muslim | Jeovah witness] I feel offended, say hurt, by your pornographic description of the gift of reproduction that God bestowed upon us. I think you should show more respect for people who don't want to see God offended this way"

    The angry feminist who sees everything as a power struggle:

    "As a woman I feel deeply disturbed by your depiction of sex as a demonstration of the power relation and exploitation between male and female and I think you should remove your picture to show more respect for the weak part of society"

    It's utter bullshit, but it's current and I say it's legitimate as an expression of a thought.

    I came in contact with this kind of fingerpointing and moralizing attitudes, I have to say, only in international fora.

    In my country we run pretty free of religious maniacs and angry feminists as compared, I have to say, to Northern Europe. Must be the sun
    The Vatican is in Rome, isn't it?

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    J... why don't you show us how much power a moderator really has... restore the images to the gallery with a click of your keyboard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    I find it disturbing that artists are encouraged to create work that stirs emotions and opinions, and then viewers who state such emotions or opinions are then threatened with a ban for doing so.


    A person stating that a photo is pornographic, is no different than the photographer who shot it stating that its art. Both are opinions, and both are equally entitled.
    Nope. Most prurient activity regarding art is centered on censoring or removing material that does not fit their worldview. That isn't an opinion, that is a menace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    Nope. Most prurient activity regarding art is centered on censoring or removing material that does not fit their worldview. That isn't an opinion, that is a menace.

    Yes, but the only one who can censor it here, is the one who created it - right? Which is effectively what happened. Someone stated an opinion, and he removed the photo? Or am I completely missing the point of the converstation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Yes, but the only one who can censor it here, is the one who created it - right? Which is effectively what happened. Someone stated an opinion, and he removed the photo? Or am I completely missing the point of the converstation.
    I'm quite sure I could bully you into leaving the site entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    As people have vastly different standards and perspectives, when does an image cross the line between erotic and pornographic? I don’t know the answer to that question, although it was once suggested to me, that it is when it could be considered as masturbatory material. What do others think?
    If you still want to look at it after you're done masturbating, it isn't porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    I'm quite sure I could bully you into leaving the site entirely.
    I've got tougher skin than that. Its just that your original comment lead me to believe that anyone posting an opinion about a controversial subject would be considered harassment, and would be shown the door. I'd like to think that the only forum I pay a subscription fee for would be a little bigger than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoffy View Post
    There's a joke in that, but I'm not using it
    Yeah, I thought better of it, too!
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.



 

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