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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCrabtree View Post
    Sad. I only saw a thumbnail of one photo and it was far from obscene. The American Puritan Ethic refuses to die.
    IIRC,the OP is not American.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    I've got tougher skin than that. Its just that your original comment lead me to believe that anyone posting an opinion about a controversial subject would be considered harassment, and would be shown the door. I'd like to think that the only forum I pay a subscription fee for would be a little bigger than that.
    Generally, and I mean this quite generally, the so called "opinions" of puritans with issues about sex and nudity is nothing more than bullying. They try to force their will on everyone, and when they meet resistance they claim that they are the ones being harassed. That has played out countless times.

    There is also the matter of taste. Maybe I find dog portraits utterly pedantic. If I post something derogatory about you and your photography I might be expressing an opinion, or just maybe I'm a crank with really bad taste. In the meantime, you, being about a thousand times more sophisticated and sensitive concerning canines, delete part of your gallery.

    I find the idea of that pretty repugnant.

    Keep in mind that we are not a democracy here. If it were it would have ceased to exist long ago. This is a Monarchy with the philosophy of a Republic. We may not get it right every time, but we are pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Yes, but the only one who can censor it here, is the one who created it - right?
    Well, Sean could-it's his site.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    There is also the matter of taste. Maybe I find dog portraits utterly pedantic. If I post something derogatory about you and your photography I might be expressing an opinion, or just maybe I'm a crank with really bad taste. In the meantime, you, being about a thousand times more sophisticated and sensitive concerning canines, delete part of your gallery.

    I find the idea of that pretty repugnant.

    As do I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    Well, Sean could-it's his site.
    The Mods can too. It is exceedingly rare compared to volume. Almost non existent for the gallery, and very infrequent in the forums. That is a reflection on the quality of the membership here.
    Last edited by JBrunner; 11-19-2012 at 09:42 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post
    Don't click on images that don't interest or disturb you.
    That's about as simple as it gets.
    Considering that any of us can click out of APUG and in moments see what actual porn sites have, it's a little tough for me to see how some images which speak to sexuality but have really nothing in common with those sites could be compared to their product.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    The Mods can too. It is exceedingly rare compared to volume.
    And maybe that's the thing. If someone sees something that genuinely concerns them, they could take it up with a moderator or the site owner instead of with the poster or in an open forum.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    And maybe that's the thing. If someone sees something that genuinely concerns them, they could take it up with a moderator or the site owner instead of with the poster or in an open forum.
    That is exactly the policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    The Vatican is in Rome, isn't it?
    Sadly, it isn't. It's in the Stato della Città del Vaticano, SCV, an independent quasi-sovereign state. They even have a seat in the ONU. When I am in Saint Peter's basilica, I am "abroad". Mussolini did this awful mess in 1929 to rub himself purring on the priests, who rubbed themselves purring on him in return. Religio instrumentum regni, as ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    I find it disturbing that artists are encouraged to create work that stirs emotions and opinions, and then viewers who state such emotions or opinions are then threatened with a ban for doing so.

    A person stating that a photo is pornographic, is no different than the photographer who shot it stating that its art. Both are opinions, and both are equally entitled.
    This is completely and totally wrong.

    We humans have emotions, there is nothing wrong with them. Your emotions can be totally different than the other person.

    This site was created for people to share their ideas, their passion, their opinions, and the photos they took, be art or not. The photos may not be art to you. If you do not like them and think they are tasteless, then just move on.

    Nudity is not pornography. It is an important chapter of the photography. Again, a 20-year old liberal art student can have totally different tastes than a 60-year old conservative fellow.

    I think the poster should learn how to respect other people and should not try to impose his ideas onto other people.
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