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    Pop Quiz: A train is about to hit someone and you have your camera. What do you do?

    The NY Post ran a front-page photo of a man about to be hit by the Q train. Part of the controversy surrounding the incident is that nobody helped him. R. Umar Abbasi was one of those people. The reason I know his name and not theirs is that he took the picture used by the newspaper. He is a freelancer. He was on an assignment for the paper when this happened. What should he have done? The question of the photographer's/journalist's responsibility to record the news, not be the news has often been asked and I would like to hear the thoughts of our community on this.

    Forbes interviewed John Long of the National Press Photographers Association and he said:
    “Your job as a human being, so to speak, outweighs your job as a photojournalist."
    But the story goes on to point out that the NPPA's code of ethics warns "photographers not to “seek to alter or influence events". So which one is it?
    I don't think Mr. Long's examples support his view though. Both photographers got the shot first. A better one would have been of someone putting their camera down in order to help someone.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...as-it-ethical/

    I am personally conflicted as to which side to take. Abbasi has succeeded in dragging me onto the platform and made me feel helpless to do anything as well as upset that no one else did. To me the question, beyond that of the photographer's responsibility, is really one of our responsibility to each other as human beings. And that is something I probably wouldn't be thinking about if the image didn't exist.

    Here's Mr. Abbasi's side of the story:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/a...ZlBR6wi2tQALyH
    The headline kind of explains my title. I realize it's from Speed and often used as a joke, but I couldn't think of anything better to capture the immediacy of the situation.

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    Such a simple question. Nobody needs to see someone killed or about to be killed. The fact this question is asked says something about the world we live in.

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    wow to even have to ask this question. if it was his sister or son. what would he do. i quess take the picture???. human life is much more inprotant than any picture or story for a paper period.
    mitch brown

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    The same is true of the iconic photo of the Vietnamese girl running. At the scene two other photographers stopped photographing to help her but no one remembers who thaey were.


    Steve.
    "People who say things won't work are a dime a dozen. People who figure out how to make things work are worth a fortune" - Dave Rat.

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    Was there anything the photographer could have done to prevent the accident?

    Could he have stopped the train? Could he have run out and tackled the guy to the ground, knocking him out of harm's way? In doing so, would he have put himself in danger of being killed? Would yelling have stopped the guy from running out into the tracks?

    Or was it a done deal?

    So, then, taking a photograph of an accident would be documentation. Wouldn't it?

    What if the victim's body was mangled beyond recognition? A photograph and the photographer's testimony would certainly establish his identity.

    Could a photograph help determine whether this was an accident, a suicide or even a murder?

    Is there a way this could have been prevented? Photographic evidence could be useful in determining that.

    So, if you are at the scene of some tragedy and there is anything you can do to help, do so!
    But, if you are witnessing a fait accompli, maybe, just maybe, taking a photograph is the best thing you could do.
    Randy S.

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    We don't know what could or could not have been done to prevent the death. Publishing the picture may be right or wrong, morally or whatever. I don't know. But the predictable holier-than-thou "I'm personally offended and outraged" bullshit hypocrisy pisses me off every time.

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    New York Times coverage of the story:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/ny...ustody.html?hp
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
    Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com

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    The photog had the time and opportunity to reach out and help pull the man to safety, instead he chose to watch the event unfold and allowed a human being to perish. Burn in hell ASSHOLE.
    Rick A
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    Slate's take with the NYPost cover:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/20..._disturbs.html
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    the predictable holier-than-thou "I'm personally offended and outraged" bullshit hypocrisy .
    But if someone is genuinely offended and outraged, there's no hypocrisy involved.

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