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View Poll Results: are you self taught or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post

    Anyway that and I want to have access to resources that colleges provide. Contacts in the photo world so I can get my Kodachrome book published and such, things I can't do on my own, I need guidance. I never saw the value in a formal education until now, I wasn't ready, now that I am, I fear it's too late...

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    It's never too late to keep learning. In NY, you have some fantastic programs you can access. There's always ICP, and if you ever get the itch to learn alternative processes, there's CAP (Center for Alternative Processes, formerly known as Center For Antique And Historic Processes, CFAAHP. CAP is an improvement ). Don't forget NYU, SVA, to name a couple. I'm sure some of the community colleges have courses you could take for a less money.

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    As others have pointed out, I think "self-taught" is a bit of an oxymoron. You can't teach yourself what you don't know, but you can learn from others in a variety of ways. I've had a small amount of formal training: In high school, I took the one photography class available back in the late 80s. Most of my early work wasn't very good but I enjoyed shooting, and I especially enjoyed working in the dark room. I used to stay after school whenever I could, and spent a lot of time splashing around in chemicals.

    A few years ago I took a night class at the local university titled "Advanced Photoshop". The instructor was knowledgeable and helpful, and I learned a lot in that class. In particular, I learned how to use layers, which has been enormously helpful. I still go back and periodically review the audio recordings I made. Learning PS is a lot like learning a language: if you don't practice it regularly it's easily forgotten.

    Apart from those two formal bits of training, I've learned from the Web (Youtube has been especially useful), as well as books by Scott Kelby and others. And of course I've learned a good deal by taking many crappy photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancekingphoto View Post
    You can't teach yourself what you don't know
    You can if you're the first person to do it. Then you have no choice.

    I don't think the Wright brothers went to aircraft pilot school.


    Steve.
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    Are you self taught or did you formal training?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
    It's never too late to keep learning. In NY, you have some fantastic programs you can access. There's always ICP, and if you ever get the itch to learn alternative processes, there's CAP (Center for Alternative Processes, formerly known as Center For Antique And Historic Processes, CFAAHP. CAP is an improvement ). Don't forget NYU, SVA, to name a couple. I'm sure some of the community colleges have courses you could take for a less money.
    If I had a "normal" job where I could schedule classes, I would have ... [tangent] (also I live in CT, only use the name since I'm there often and it's catchy and easy to remember and AVAILABLE, my old site name was ...

    www.stoneiiiphotography.com

    My new one is www.stonenyc.com

    MUCH easier... (I'm blind how many 'i' s is that? ... Got that a lot before...)

    Now I just need to make the site look nice instead of cheesy like it is now and I'll be all set!

    [end tangent]

    As I was saying... But I get my work set sporadically and ALWAYS need to be available for a call for the next day, I tried taking a single course once and missed 5 classes in a row because work fell on those days and so the professor failed me because I was being "irresponsible" by not coming to class, it was that or not have gas money to drive to school or eat... So formal education will be difficult. And work can be at all hours so not like I can take might classes or something, trust me if you suggest something I've probably thought of it before, until I change careers it's a lose/lose in photography unless I suddenly get a Jaggers (Abel) to elevate me to stardom! {Charles Dickens reference}.

    Not to mention the commute to NY just for school, it finding a DECENT school in CT. lol

    Thanks though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lancekingphoto View Post
    As others have pointed out, I think "self-taught" is a bit of an oxymoron. You can't teach yourself what you don't know, but you can learn from others in a variety of ways.
    not sure about that.

    some of the best things in life have been learned by mistake
    tinkering, and pushing oneself to do something different ...
    thats how inventions and discoveries are made every day.

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    Are you self taught or did you formal training?

    We all know that self taught is just a description of learning from trial and error as well as from other resources, all it means is you haven't gone the traditional rout of formal education, lets not be nit picky... Lets just tell our stories


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    Also don't really think the term self taught is very helpful.

    I learned by trial and error, books, DVDs etc as well as over 30 seminars, workshops, classes with about 15 that were held by Professional Photographers of America in a small town in Indiana. As with almost all of them they were a week in length and taught by working photographers, most at the top of their field, who came in to teach for a week.

    On top of that there are many convention programs, day long workshops and in some cases I traveled to the persons home and spent a week with them.

    So this could hardly be called self taught.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Are you self taught or did you formal training?

    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    Also don't really think the term self taught is very helpful.

    I learned by trial and error, books, DVDs etc as well as over 30 seminars, workshops, classes with about 15 that were held by Professional Photographers of America in a small town in Indiana. As with almost all of them they were a week in length and taught by working photographers, most at the top of their field, who came in to teach for a week.

    On top of that there are many convention programs, day long workshops and in some cases I traveled to the persons home and spent a week with them.

    So this could hardly be called self taught.
    So then click "yes and no"....


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    I've been self-taught. Doesn't my work show it?

    All kidding aside, I've also watched internet training videos (mainly Photoshop type stuff). Is that considered being self-taught?

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    I made my first prints in the employee recreation darkroom at the Grand Canyon (Grand Canyon Village -- South Rim). Too long ago to remember the finer details. I had the camera shop in Flagstaff develop my 120 film, bought a couple packs of paper and drove back to the Canyon. Muddled through somehow, remember laying the RC prints on the railing around the stairway to dry. Still have them 35 years later.

    Back at college, I took a photo class once a year for the next 4 years, and volunteered as a darkroom assistant. I also attended a couple Friends of Photography workshops, then was a workshop assistant for them for many years. I worked for the US Forest Service for 12 seasons (~6 months each) and during the off-season volunteered again at the university as a darkroom assistant (with full access to the darkroom, of course!) I have worked the past 20 years as the darkroom tech for a university and have been giving carbon printing workshops for the past several years. No better way to learn than to teach!
    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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