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I took a rec program class when I was home from college during the summer years ago but I don't really consider that formal training. Pretty much everything I've learned recently is from the internet (youtube and a lot of help from apug), books and DVD's.
Are you self taught or did you formal training?
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Most people I think would consider self-directed book-learning to be "self taught". Obviously none of us has rediscovered the whole of photographic history and technology, we had to learn it from someone else.
Originally Posted by Ricus.stormfire
I would expect the majority "self taught" responses would probably indicate this interpretation - it just means they've been to no classes or workshops.
Self taught is a meaningless term.
The only way to be self taught is to live on another planet with no instruction available from any source, no books, no DVDs, no friends, no mentors, no other photographers work to examine .....nothing.
The minute you receive instruction from any source you are no longer "self taught".
The difference between going to a school for a few years, and doing what I did, is that I controlled the curriculum. I made the decision who to see, who to train with and what instruction I wanted to receive.
I'm not knocking the original posts interest in how the members here learned, but there are many answers to this kind of question. People that attended formal schools still very often have self directed learning after they graduate. People who didn't have formal schooling still can learn a lot more in self directed learning by choosing their own avenues for learning and their own teachers from various workshops. A person "self taught" can still read all the text books that a formal school students learns from. A person can apprentice with a working photographer and learn more that any person in a formal school will learn.
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I think it is counter productive to bicker about the finer meaning of the term "self-taught". I'm pretty sure that we all understand what is meant by "self taught" and that we all have pretty much the same understanding. Give the guy a break...let's not degenerate into a group of grumpy old men engaging in one long, multi-episode pissing contest.
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Reason: remove snide remark about that other pissing contest venue.
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I don't know you could say "more" - certainly different. What someone who attends Brooks Institute will learn is very different from what someone who attends RISD will learn, and both are different from an apprenticeship, because the apprenticeship will show you how ONE photographer who makes a living from it works, complete with good AND bad habits. Some things you'll get much faster, studying under the working pro, others, maybe not at all, and yet others you'll get non-standard approaches because they're what works for that individual, but you may never know WHY he/she did it that way because they either never thought about it or they don't know how to articulate it.
Originally Posted by blansky
It's called experimentation. Most of what I know professionally I learned that way. Nobody taught me.
Originally Posted by lancekingphoto
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
Same here (as I mentioned earlier).
Originally Posted by lxdude
Also known as trial and error (often mostly error!).
"People who say things won't work are a dime a dozen. People who figure out how to make things work are worth a fortune" - Dave Rat.
I'm self taught in that I received no formal training or education regarding the artistic or technical aspects of photography, however over the years I have had various mentors, attended a few conferences and workshops, and attempted to mimic certain things I was interested in, etc.
Part of any education involves exposure to the field of endeavor, so in that manner, I have received information and guidance from others. I don't believe there really is an opportunity to be self taught, unless you somehow invent and develop something from the ground up.
That's just, like, my opinion, man...
Self taught. I'm using the meaning as, "no formal education." I have read books, and I have run many rolls and sheets of film. Load, expose, develop, print, repeat.
While an educational course may open avenues for you such as teaching, I never wanted to learn how to photograph to teach photography. I became interested in photography because, as I was driving home one night, I became entranced by the moonlight on the landscape. It wasn't a grand landscape, it was just suburban-rural stuff. But that was the motivational spark. And then I bought a very used Pentax 6x7 and a 90mm leaf shutter lens, which is still going strong.
What is important to learning is remembering why I want to photograph things. I remember what I saw that first moonlit night. I remember when clouds lined up into a pagoda, with the moon in the center. I remember the morning when the rising sun painted a hillside in shades of red, bright to dim. I remember these things, and so I strive to continue with photography.