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    Living in a post-photographic age, interview with Robert Burley

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    "I wish that more people felt that photography was an adventure the same as life itself and felt that their individual feelings were worth expressing. To me, that makes photography more exciting."
    -- Harry Callahan

    This Christmas I received a new pen. This pen has something different: a camera and 4Gb flash storage. Have we move into a post-photographic age? I think that we have moved into a hyper-photographic age. There is that Kickstarter project for a wearable camera that makes a snapshot every 30 seconds. Record the moments of your life! For no really good reason. Upload them for all to see! For no really good reason. Because you have a gadget, and it goes blink blink blink.

    Is life an adventure because your moments are recorded with a camera? I could wander around for 90 minutes at a time, recording 640x480 at 15fps. Oh, my, I walked down to the store, bought some stuff, and walked back. Did I express myself by recording every movement? I read a book. Oooh, how operatic! Or maybe not.

    Hanna Arendt used the phrase, "banality of evil," in her thesis, Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil. Here I have the banality of every day life. I don't think that life is dramatized simply because it is photographed. It simply is. Yeah, sure, there may be dramatic moments in life. Perhaps there may be an interesting vignette. But 24/7, on the average, life is not a major drama.

    So anything other than the banal has to be carefully collected. Sure, I can make a snapshot with the pen whenever I feel like it. But just because I clicked the pen doesn't mean that the moment is special. I have to make the determination to curate the present. I must always figure out which little moment, which scene, is actually special and worth saving. Perhaps saving it for someone else, or just for me.

    So, no, we don't live in anything like a post-photographic age. We now live in an age where photography has moved into an even faster speed. How many images are shared on a daily basis? Through Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, whatever. And there are new services every month. More ideas on how to connect people in a manner that they want to be connected.

    Information as banal as walking down the street.

    Welcome to the banality of the present.
    This reminds me more of the surrogate effect, living and experiencing through recorded images rather than viewing ourselves in person. Soon we will stay at home and experience life throughout brain stimuli from a computer


    ~Stone

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    This reminds me more of the surrogate effect, living and experiencing through recorded images rather than viewing ourselves in person. Soon we will stay at home and experience life throughout brain stimuli from a computer

    ~Stone
    Like video games, but it's just life as we know it. Vicarious virtual reality. There was a science fiction story a while back, and one of the elements was that virtual reality was the norm. You could also do things like rent time on a roving robot, instead getting on a plane and going to the Louvre yourself to see the paintings. One of the characters did that, expecting to see a crowd of people there. He was disappointed to see that the place was full of the same roving robots, and nobody was physically in the building to see the artwork!

    Actually, that makes the role of the purposeful photographer even more imporant. If more and more people stay home, then it's really up to the few who go out and photograph to bring back what is poignant within the banal.

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    Living in a post-photographic age, interview with Robert Burley

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    Like video games, but it's just life as we know it. Vicarious virtual reality. There was a science fiction story a while back, and one of the elements was that virtual reality was the norm. You could also do things like rent time on a roving robot, instead getting on a plane and going to the Louvre yourself to see the paintings. One of the characters did that, expecting to see a crowd of people there. He was disappointed to see that the place was full of the same roving robots, and nobody was physically in the building to see the artwork!

    Actually, that makes the role of the purposeful photographer even more imporant. If more and more people stay home, then it's really up to the few who go out and photograph to bring back what is poignant within the banal.
    I was in that movie, it's called "Surrogates" with Bruce Willis


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    No, that's not it. That movie was based on a comic book, but the one I'm thinking about was a novel. Part of the plot involved hacking to the surrogate network. When someone died, for a short while their surrogate identity could be picked up and reassigned. One of the protagonists was from a poor neighborhood, and paid someone to do this for him. Unfortunately for this fellow, the ID that was hacked was someone who had been murdered, and the murderer then thought that they hadn't done the job right. And of course throw in the police, who knew they had a body, yet the ID was still active, and of course things get interesting.

    I remember that the description of the hacker was an old fellow who only used a keyboard and monitor to interact with the network, and scoffed at using the VR and robots. Who knows, maybe he also used film...

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