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    Loss of fine art photography tradition

    I would also guess many are like me, I never went to school for photography, so who would have taught me of the various greats that came before, all I know are the artists of now that I'm familiar with, I don't see any images other than Ansel's that are of any name mention at all in my daily life, even when I'm paying attention.

    I only know of Dan for example because I met him, and only know Ron because he's a prolific figure on APUG, but the greats, where would I even see them?

    I would guess its a lot about lack of exposure (no pun intended)


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    Quote Originally Posted by mannbro View Post
    Actually, he did invent cubism. Les Demoiselles d'Avignon was the precursor, and from there he explored it further. If I remember correctly, it was Gertrud Stein who came up with the name in 1909. While Braque also was a pioneeer in the field and probably influenced the development quite a bit, Picasso was, I am quite certain, the first.

    one could easily say that the italian futurists were doing this at the same time
    they called it one thing, braque, picasso and stein called it another.

    some people innovate, others stay within convention ...
    and eventually enough people recognize what was once innovative
    and it becomes just part of the vernacular.

    i remember an interview with michael stipe from rem a handful of years ago.
    the interviewer told him they were no longer cutting edge, and that they sound like
    everything else on the radio ... michael stipe's response was that they hadn't changed
    what they were doing but 20+ years later everyone else caught up with them.
    ( personally, i thought they were much better when you couldn't understand much of what stipe slurred+mumbled)
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    ...but the greats, where would I even see them?

    I would guess its a lot about lack of exposure (no pun intended)


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    ... but the greats, where would I even see them?

    I would guess its a lot about lack of exposure (no pun intended)


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    to add to what greg said ...

    if you are near a university
    see if the library has a special collection ---->>> print collection.
    head up to boston, go to tufts and to the library's special collections area
    they have portfolios of callahan and others to look at ... just ask.
    if you are making a day of it, go to haaavaaad, make an apt the day before
    go to the fogg and sackler and ask to see photography,
    the stuff is there for looking ... if you end up in prov ri, go to the risd museum,
    they probs have oodles of callahan and siskind's work, seeing they taught there ...

    have fun !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    I don't think they should be called ruts but styles.
    I might suggest the word tradition might work in place of rut too.

    As to the tools providing distraction, there have always been distractions.

    IMO the problem is not how many tools are at hand but our lack of clarity about what we want as a result.
    Mark Barendt, Beaverton, OR

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    Hey folks.

    Is there a place in Chicago to view real prints made in a darkroom?
    Go to the light......

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    Talk to Columbia College or the School of the Arts Institute of Chicago. They have collections to view.
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    Thanks Greg. I'll be up ther again in June shooting, so I'll try to see it.
    Go to the light......

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    Originally Posted by markbarendt
    Here are three that seem to me to have come to there art/inspiration before there schooling in art.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandma_Moses

    http://www.vivianmaier.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansel_Adams
    Their just Wannabes


    There, Their, They're! Take your pick I suppose? The trouble with the world today is there are too few pedants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Egan View Post
    There, Their, They're! Take your pick I suppose? The trouble with the world today is there are too few pedants.
    And autocorrect is a bit too "helpful".
    Mark Barendt, Beaverton, OR

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