You must be talking about our politicians.
Originally Posted by rthomas
What's worse is deliberate misleading statements for ones own cause vs what's right for the majority, and outright lies.
Wayne, the problem is not with politicians but with the perception that they are made to have in that they MUST uphold the BS that is expected of them.
Simply listen to right-wing talk radio to get a sample of the BS that is EXPECTED by the public (in order to create a comforting world the does not exist, but SEEMS to exist in their fantasy). Just listening to the 'scam commercials' on such shows (geared to posture to the most naive amongst us) should be ample proof for what I say. - David Lyga
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I also worked for a large consulting firm, and we were trained from Day 1 that if we weren't sure of the answer, we were to tell the client exactly what you told yours. Under no circumstances were we to ever "wing it", because wrong answers damage the firm's credibility. The only time anyone ever caught grief was if the question was something they were supposed to have been prepared to answer.
Originally Posted by c6h6o3
e.g., the congresswoman who's helping to write gun laws but doesn't know that gun magazines are reloadable:
Originally Posted by waynecrider
There aren't enough facepalms.
Then why did you post "No, you need to get it right in the camera" when others clearly pointed out that, while not easy, it could be done at the printing stage?
Originally Posted by cliveh
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I have always been a person who naturally tries to find things out and understand things. I often say what I think is true but with the caveat, "If that's not right, let's find out what IS right."
I expect other people to say whether they think my information or understanding is right or not. If not, we go find out. Find an encyclopedia, look it up in a dictionary, use Google, use Wikipedia, read a book or even make a phone call and ask somebody you trust.
I can't know everything but I can learn anything if I try. Learning is about the effort, not in the knowing.
My problem is that I find most people to be lazy. They don't want to take the effort to find things out. They want predigested, pat answers. They don't really want to know anything. They just want people to tell them things. They don't want to do the mental work.
There is a saying, "Men value most those things which come at a cost." I believe that, if something is worth knowing, it is worth working to learn about it.
My problem is not with people who say, "This is what I think but let's find out what is true." My problem is with people who are too lazy to find out what the truth is. My problem is with people who are don't want to learn but who spout off with bogus facts and who are either too stupid or unwilling to find out the truth. THAT is what I believe bullshit to be.
“Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Teh Ching
“We are buried beneath the weight of information, which is being confused with knowledge; quantity is being confused with abundance and wealth with happiness.
We are monkeys with money and guns.”
― Tom Waits
For some unknown reason, the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary.
Originally Posted by jnanian
The internet has made it very easy to an "expert". And forums have given these "experts" a venue. Unfortunately this spills over into the real world and they become irritating.
As a teacher I deal with it all the time. Fortunately you get used to ignoring it.
Technological society has succeeded in multiplying the opportunities for pleasure, but it has great difficulty in generating joy. Pope Paul VI
So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004