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    Quote Originally Posted by Worker 11811 View Post
    I don't care if this happened in Adelaide or Albuquerque. If I owned a photo lab, I would instruct my employees to NOT report any photographs to the police unless it was absolutely, crystal clear that something illegal was taking place in the pictures.

    I don't think the business owner was right, in any sense of the word, to do what he did.
    ... but it is no more right or wrong than if one were to call the police to report screams coming from the home next door. As a citizen (or even as a human being) we are compelled to attempt to keep sanity in our society. Sometimes that involves reporting suspicions to those who are educated and chartered to discern the real danger of a situation. It is the role of the police to investigate, and the courts to arbitrate; assuming that one needs to be qualified in those roles just to have a reasonable suspicion of potential harm (or comply with an established reporting law, as may have been the case in this discussion) seems a bit of a stretch.

    This is the world we live in and, not to seem harsh to the OP or anyone else... there has been enough of this stutation in the news over the years that one would have to be living under a rock to have not expected such a issue to be a realistic possibility. Sad... very sad... but this is our world, and has been for quite some time.

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    p.s. The destruction of the personally-owned materials is a different matter. Since no crime was involved those never should have been destroyed. That should be pursued in a civil complaint against the police agency since it could have been retaliatory behavior rather than a situation of accidental damage.

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    hi randy

    the same lab that called the police on the people that i knew
    was known to have processed and print some of the most graphic porn
    as well (from what i understand from a friend who used to work there) ..
    no one was ever arrested, no one was ever reported to the police &c BUT the difference is
    the graphic porn was created by consenting adults, and had nothing to do with children.
    labs and society in general have had eyes wide open ( thankfully ) when it comes to kids, kiddieporn
    child abuse and labs are required to report whenever anything that involves nudity and children arrives
    at their doorstep. sometimes they get it wrong, and it is a parent goofing around
    photographing their version of "the coppertone advertisement" or something naïve but sometimes they get it right
    and nail a sick individual/s.
    while i feel bad for the OP i am glad the lab owners were doing their job.

    john

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    A photographer friend of mine has been doing a long term project of photographing a local park over many years (twenty so far). About ten years ago you suddenly notice that ther are no kids in the shots any more.
    I asked him and he told me of a woman in the distance that shouted 'look at that pedofile over there taking kiddy pictures'
    The people in question hardly registered on the photo.
    After that he made sure there were no one in the shots.
    Sick people need to be caught but when does it become to excess?
    It's like the searches getting on a plane. If you want to be that sure then strip search everyone! Not going to happen!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    we must live in the world as it is, not as we might like it to be ...
    I must vigorously disagree. To do so reduces all of us to mindless sheep. We are reasoning beings with the power to change what we do not like.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

    ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    Too many iron-fisted activists are created by too much watching of Law and Order SUV and other TV shows. They're just TV shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    Too many iron-fisted activists are created by too much watching of Law and Order SUV and other TV shows. They're just TV shows.
    Whereas the problem of child abuse and paedophilia is all too real.
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    Too many iron-fisted activists are created by too much watching of Law and Order SUV and other TV shows. They're just TV shows.
    maybe ..

    and maybe people don't know the difference between a tv shows and "reality"
    but i seem to remember a handful of stories over the last few years about
    women escaping from homes where they lived as CHILD-abductees.
    (california a handful of years ago, belgium a few years ago, and most recently in ohio )

    while it may be just someone's imagination on television or in the movies,
    unfortunately it is a reality for some.

    i'd rather live in a society where people look out for one another than a society where someone's child is kidnapped
    and years later they are banging on a screen door to get help to escape and the person neighbor looking / taking notice just
    turns their back to them shrugs their shoulders and walks away ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    while it may be just someone's imagination on television or in the movies,
    unfortunately it is a reality for some.
    Those stories are based on one-or-more realities way more often than many would think.

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    This is taking a turn toward political ideologies, and that's a recipe for having my membership cancelled. So, with that, I'm going to hide the thread, and pick you fine people up on another one about techniques and equipment. Regards.

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