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    I don't understand what you are "jus' sayin'", Steve? Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

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    OP said kid was running around, not looking like he was forced to do something... must have been a newbie at the photolab, who already thinks people who shoot film are strange, so when he sees the naked kid he freaks....

    If the op, took a whole roll of the naked kid, somethings weird, if the op took a photo, where the kid looked like he was in distress, again weird... family photos, and naked kid running around, funny.

    to be blatant, as i get older more friends are having kids, and many of them are from el paso, tx (90-100 degree weather in the summer)... so amongst photos of food being grilled, family,etc... there's a naked kid here and there... no one thinks it's weird, because it's in CONTEXT.

    so op was singled out for a reason he is unaware of or omitted... or the photolab people at that specific place are 'sheep' to put it nicely.

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    Ironically, would they have even noticed if this was shot on anything other than transparency film?
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    ^ haha...

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    Fundamentally this is an issue of discretion and not over reacting. I'm not aware of any legal obligation to report naked pictures of children but would definitely feel a moral obligation to report anything i was unhappy with.
    However i would speak to the client and explain my position. If the boot was on the other foot i'd probably be peeved that the situation was occurring and that suspicion was aimed at me but wouldn't take it personally. We should be glad that people have their eyes open, all be it misplaced: any criminal taking photos of an act they had committed especially on film must be as rare as it stupid. I can't see how destroying the original makes any difference, all in all it's a silly situation that should have been dealt with in a much better fashion.
    The very worst instance would be to let it go and then realise that you had missed a chance to stop some form of abuse.
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    this begs the question... what the hell was the photo, for someone to take such a position?

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    In my neck of the woods, there is a legal obligation to report anything that brings rise to a concern that a child may be at risk.

    The obligation supersedes any claim of privilege (doctor/patient, priest/penitent, lawyer/client).

    By law, if I am concerned about the possibility of a child being at risk, I am required to report. I am not given the discretion to decide against reporting.

    However, there is a matching legal requirement that the child protection authorities handle such reports very carefully. While they have significant powers when it comes to protecting children, their powers when it comes to making allegations against others or seizing property are constrained by criminal law and the stringent rules against government seizure of private property.
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    Some folks are immorally moral

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    Too many iron-fisted activists are created by too much watching of Law and Order SUV and other TV shows. They're just TV shows.
    I hate the "zero tolerance", black and white view of morality. We're spending $billions to fight the Taliban and now they work in our photo labs.
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    We are monkeys with money and guns.”

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    I took myself off last summer (on my own) specifically to get some architectural shots of a local stately home (in a public park). While waiting for the sun to come through clouds for the effect I wanted, I suddenly found myself being watched, I felt uncomfortably, by a group of Mums picnicking with their kids. They were some distance away, and were nowhere near my intended photo, being 180 degrees behind me.
    I felt quite sick that we're in a society where irrational fears have been instilled so that Mums and kids can't enjoy an innocent picnic without watching every stranger, and we can't enjoy our hobby without watching our backs all the time.
    And would it have attracted any similar attention if I had been a woman photographer on her own? IDK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    In my neck of the woods, there is a legal obligation to report anything that brings rise to a concern that a child may be at risk.

    The obligation supersedes any claim of privilege (doctor/patient, priest/penitent, lawyer/client).

    By law, if I am concerned about the possibility of a child being at risk, I am required to report. I am not given the discretion to decide against reporting.

    However, there is a matching legal requirement that the child protection authorities handle such reports very carefully. While they have significant powers when it comes to protecting children, their powers when it comes to making allegations against others or seizing property are constrained by criminal law and the stringent rules against government seizure of private property.
    Here's some food for though: if a child is crying in a photograph, shouldn't it be reported because there is a possibility of risk? What makes a nude body on an otherwise happy child (not being obviously placed into any harm) any more prone to risk than a kid bawling his eyes out? The latter could be post-abuse and no one would know.

    The key issue here isn't potential of abuse - it's nudity and children no matter what the context. That's dumb.
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