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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    And let photography itself from past eras lend testimony that people in general have become slovenly in attire and appearance in latter years. As for me, I never cared for photographing nudity, never sought the opportunity to do it, and wouldn't if I could. The only bone I might pick with Stone would be the photography of tattoos. A girl with a tattoo is the best cure for a Viagra overdose that I can think of.
    To be honest, I found this to be more bothersome than anything Stone said. Especially the bit about girls with tattoos. And yet as much as I disagree with it, here I am not being upset by it.

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    Can't we all just get along!

    I'm often light hearted, I've only once really gotten upset and that was a while back with a lot of fluff over the title of an image than of the image itself and my integrity and my respect for my models came into question and then I got all upset and made a whole thread on it, and then people gave me shit for being upset at the fact my integrity was called into question haha, there's a lot of this sort of holier than though attitude on this site (I just typed a bunch of stuff that would generalize and make other people upset "that's not me" stuff but basically...)because our art isn't often a shared creation but an individually created art form (for the most part) I think we as photographers see things how we want to see them, viewing the world through our own lens, never taking our head out from under the black sheet. So there's always going to be strong opinion. I'm not saying we aren't flexible, nor that we are single minded and will never grow, just saying we have a strong view and are often less flexible than others (case in point that many refuse to use digital and we are in a film forum, a medium that is seen by the collective greater part of the human race as a medium of the past) and so we tend to butt heads a lot because we are stubborn. Thank goodness we have a collective love of film to hold us together.

    So I say again, can't we all just get along? Stay together for the film!


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    Oh lord this is waaaay mild as internet "disagreement" threads go .

    It speaks to the smaller closer community we enjoy here.

    I relish reading the varying opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoffy View Post
    Instead of retorting, would it not have been better to show a level of humility - heck, even say "I'm Sorry"......
    If someone called me a perv, there is no way I would reply "I'm Sorry". I mean- are you nuts? She would feel completely validated in her opinion and actions.

    None of us are obligated to take verbal abuse from someone. We have the right to defend ourselves against such attacks. If you decide to do something else, fine, but don't go passing judgment on the person who isn't going to take that kind of crap. The woman was wrong in what she did. She is not entitled to get a pass on it.
    Last edited by lxdude; 07-11-2013 at 01:12 AM. Click to view previous post history.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    I think in the scheme of things I did rather well.

    The original post was condensed to prevent the reader from entering a coma but she must have said "I'm calling the police" at least 5 times. In the end, I was practically begging her to call the police.

    There were at least 10 witnesses, all who would have easily heard her shout "is that how you get your thrills, photographing my children?"

    At no point was I rude or offensive. I remained seated the whole time (my 6'1" frame would have probably intimidated her).

    I didn't say sorry, as I felt I had nothing to apologise about.
    "All I ask for is an M5 with a fast lens, a roll of HP5 and a street to shoot her by."

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    Here's an unexpected turn up for the books.

    On the 3rd January 2014, my work and a short biography is to be featured on the 'Street Photographer Blog'.

    http://streetphotographerblog.wordpress.com/
    "All I ask for is an M5 with a fast lens, a roll of HP5 and a street to shoot her by."

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    OK, maybe saying I'm sorry is the wrong words. But showing some consideration and acknowledging that they are not happy with the photos that may or may not have been taken is all in the interest of keeping harmony.
    If you get a chance, check out my new Facebook Page, Kustoms On Silver!

    Hoffy's Flickr Photostream (Not quite analog Only, but nearly!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Rider View Post
    Here's an unexpected turn up for the books.

    On the 3rd January 2014, my work and a short biography is to be featured on the 'Street Photographer Blog'.

    http://streetphotographerblog.wordpress.com/
    Cool! But why does a blog have to wait so long? It's not like a magazine or anything. They ought to be able to post it at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    If someone called me a perv, there is no way I would reply "I'm Sorry". I mean- are you nuts? She would feel completely validated in her opinion and actions.

    None of us are obligated to take verbal abuse from someone. We have the right to defend ourselves against such attacks. If you decide to do something else, fine, but don't go passing judgment on the person who isn't going to take that kind of crap. The woman was wrong in what she did. She is not entitled to get a pass on it.
    she and her kids were "attacked" too ...
    and now stone ( and the peanut gallery ) has attached her again by suggesting the only reason she didn't
    want to have her photograph taken was because she was "fat and ugly" ... ( like all fat / ugly women? )
    and if she was a "beautiful person" she would have relished the extra attention she was getting.

    if ming and stone did nothing wrong .. the lady did nothing wrong either ...
    she didn't want a stranger who had been staring/spying at her and her kids
    for 3-5 minutes photographing them.

    if a person with a camera is going to take grab shots
    ( and if the subject is upset all the better ) then the photographer
    gets what he paid for if/when the subject calls them names, verbally abuses them and/or calls the police.

    the whole fat+ugly thing reminds me of next day pathetic excuses after a frat party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viridari View Post
    Cool! But why does a blog have to wait so long? It's not like a magazine or anything. They ought to be able to post it at any time.
    I suppose it's because each photographer is featured on the front page for a week and the owner has a healthy long list of people to display on a firstcome first served basis?

    Yep, it is cool.
    "All I ask for is an M5 with a fast lens, a roll of HP5 and a street to shoot her by."

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