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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    One of these days I'm going to give you a truckload of grief over run-on sentences.
    I admit I tend to babble...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    she didn't know him, he wasn't a friend, he was some guy hanging out on a park bench/table
    for 5 mins staring at her kids, and she felt violated by it ...
    He was there first. He said he tried three times to get a picture; she did not object. How long he spent trying to get a picture is not clear. After he gave up trying, another five minutes went by without a peep from her. It is not clear if he was even still watching the kid. It was only after those five minutes had passed, as they were leaving, that she accosted him. So how did that protect her kids, anyway?

    she had every right to act the way she did,
    She was unreasonable. She accosted him, creating a disturbance, by yelling at him "You're a sick pervert for photographing my kids!"
    So--anyone who takes a picture of her kid is a sick pervert. Is that reasonable?
    Is it anyone's right to loudly attack someone else just because they don't like what that person is doing? She sounds to me like a bit of a nutcase, not behaving as a reasonable person would.

    i know he didn't literally attack her, but he violated her which to ME is the same as an attack.
    Violated how? He tried to take a picture of her kid jumping over a bench, in plain view of everybody. Her child entered his field of view, his viewing space; he did not follow or pursue the child, or even move to get a different angle. Just because she FELT violated, it doesn't mean she WAS violated.

    As I said earlier, what are we supposed to do? Avert our eyes whenever children are around?
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Seems to me a situation evolved around the OP, it doesn't appear to me that photographing unruly kids who were jumping on a park bench whilst elderly strangers share the same bench is a violation of their privacy. In my book, those kids were violating the privacy of those elders who were there first. I bet had one of those kids injured those elders Ming's pictures and corroboration of events would have helped. The actions of the mother I've no comment on....

    So Ming, yes or no question, were there elderly strangers on a park bench that some kids (accompanied by their mother) turned into their play land?

    Or were they all together - grandparents, uncles/friends, whatnot and their "energy intrigued you" and you attempted to photograph it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    ... The actions of the mother I've no comment on...
    .. but that is the ONLY thing worth focussing on. We all know Ming was within his legal rights. All of the rest is a discussion of his ethics and personal beliefs on privacy -- which aren't worth discussing. The details of the situation, particularly th realtionship between the parties on the bench, may be quite irrelevant... but it may be interesting.

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    Can you post the pictures because I wasn't able to see them before, I don't know how you posted them but it came up blank if I recall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    . . . what are we supposed to do? Avert our eyes whenever children are around?
    Funny you should say that.

    On the train home, the carriage I was in was packed full, so I stood in the area by the exit door. In there were four young lads, probably about 12 years old. I was feeling so miserable, sick and with all self-confidence and street photography future lying in tatters, that I daren't face their approximate direction for even a second.

    I spent the entire 35 minute journey looking out the window.

    They probably thought I was weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Rider View Post
    I spent the entire 35 minute journey looking out the window.
    Check your trousers... they could have lifted your wallet. These things can happen when one is despondent and becomes less aware of their surroundings.

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    I've processed the film and to my surprise I did get a shot (shows how much attention I was paying). It's not very good as the composition is wayward and the child is actually jumping away from the camera, but it shows the 'mother' and another two frames show the old boy with the hat, and the elderly lovers.

    Will scan and post later. Maybe I should merge the three shots together, then you'll get the whole picture?
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    you gys take yourselves way to seriously

    post all 4 together ming ..

    you should get the email of the police
    to see if they can forward you the one
    where she gave you the "homer" or the mugshot
    of when they processed you at the station ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    Check your trousers... they could have lifted your wallet. These things can happen when one is despondent and becomes less aware of their surroundings.
    Wallet survived unscathed. It lives in the camera bag, in a back pocket which is pressed against my side.
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