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    I had a pervert call out today. I was testing a Widelux I bot on ebay. I had a light meter in hand. Was up front about it, not sneak hip shooting. Was at a Catholic street fair / fund raiser. The officials there could not wrap their head around why I wanted to take photos of kids that were not my own.

    He asked my name, city of residence etc. Wanted me to email him some photos. What a joke. I could email whatever. I told him it was film not digital. He eventually left me alone and kept an eye on me. I ran out of film and left. I was there last night, will be back tonight. As long as the police don't throw me out, I keep shooting. But it is private property and they could ask me to stop / leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmycam View Post
    I had a pervert call out today. I was testing a Widelux I bot on ebay. I had a light meter in hand. Was up front about it, not sneak hip shooting. Was at a Catholic street fair / fund raiser. The officials there could not wrap their head around why I wanted to take photos of kids that were not my own.

    He asked my name, city of residence etc. Wanted me to email him some photos. What a joke. I could email whatever. I told him it was film not digital. He eventually left me alone and kept an eye on me. I ran out of film and left. I was there last night, will be back tonight. As long as the police don't throw me out, I keep shooting. But it is private property and they could ask me to stop / leave.
    But... Why catholic children? Don't they have enough issues with priests without a creepy guy shooting pictures they can't post on FB (facebook)... Lol


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    WAIT A SECOND ! Think about WHY some official would ask a photographer to e-mail him some photos and why do you suppose he was keeping an eye on you? Hmmmm? Huh? HUH ! I probably would have called the cops and told them some guy with the church is soliciting child photographs from you, What's up with THAT? And they're always the victims, aren't they? And IMHO what's creepy here is the guy asked for photos ! YIKES !

    This is what the world has become. <SIGH> This is where their minds are at without even thinking about what they're asking. I wouldn't send that guy anything other than a thanks for asking note by mail with a business card and maybe a link to your web site sans any pix of children of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Feldstein View Post
    WAIT A SECOND ! Think about WHY some official would ask a photographer to e-mail him some photos and why do you suppose he was keeping an eye on you? Hmmmm? Huh? HUH ! I probably would have called the cops and told them some guy with the church is soliciting child photographs from you, What's up with THAT? And they're always the victims, aren't they? And IMHO what's creepy here is the guy asked for photos ! YIKES !

    This is what the world has become. <SIGH> This is where their minds are at without even thinking about what they're asking. I wouldn't send that guy anything other than a thanks for asking note by mail with a business card and maybe a link to your web site sans any pix of children of course.

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    I hadn't thought of that... Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Feldstein View Post
    WAIT A SECOND ! Think about WHY some official would ask a photographer to e-mail him some photos and why do you suppose he was keeping an eye on you? Hmmmm? Huh? HUH ! I probably would have called the cops and told them some guy with the church is soliciting child photographs from you, What's up with THAT? And they're always the victims, aren't they? And IMHO what's creepy here is the guy asked for photos ! YIKES !

    This is what the world has become. <SIGH> This is where their minds are at without even thinking about what they're asking. I wouldn't send that guy anything other than a thanks for asking note by mail with a business card and maybe a link to your web site sans any pix of children of course.

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    I just got back from trying to shoot at the same place tonight. I was there about 5 minutes. Took maybe 3 pix. The same guy came up to me and said there was a big stink after I left in the afternoon. The parents were upset that 'someone' was taking pix of the kids. Bottom line, I leave or they call the police. Since it is private property, I have no other choice. (I wasn't only shooting kids. I was trying to shoot an anorexic lady in the afternoon. I shoot whatever is interesting.)

    The guy had a hard time trying to figure out what to say to me this afternoon. The deal about the 'emailing pictures to him' was an 'ice breaker' for him to approach me. He said he wanted some photos for promotion for next year. Then after I started talking to him 'some' the truth came out about why he wanted the photos and why he wanted to talk to me.

    This evening, no BS. He came right out and said they were worried and wanted me to leave. Yea, it was kinda a weird conversation in the afternoon. it started out one way like he was interested in getting some photos . But ended up with the truth coming out that they think photogs, at least male ones are perverts.

    Any analog ladies out there?

    Are the ladies hassled like men photogs when they point their cameras at kids?

    Luckily we can shoot all sorts of things beside kids. It would be hell trying to do battle like this day in and day out. This is like double the stress of street photography. It is like taking pix of a bomb ready to blow...you can't relax one bit!

    I had forgot, but I was hassled about 8 years ago at a public pool. I was testing an underwater video cam. I snorkeled around the pool taking test video of whatever was in the water...kids, adults, floats. Maybe 2 minutes if that worth of vid. A lifeguard hassled me about shooting the video. I told him yes I shot kids, adults anything I could to see how it worked. I told him I wasn't taking it diving before giving it at least a small test. He didn't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmycam View Post
    I just got back from trying to shoot at the same place tonight. I was there about 5 minutes. Took maybe 3 pix. The same guy came up to me and said there was a big stink after I left in the afternoon. The parents were upset that 'someone' was taking pix of the kids. Bottom line, I leave or they call the police. Since it is private property, I have no other choice. (I wasn't only shooting kids. I was trying to shoot an anorexic lady in the afternoon. I shoot whatever is interesting.)

    The guy had a hard time trying to figure out what to say to me this afternoon. The deal about the 'emailing pictures to him' was an 'ice breaker' for him to approach me. He said he wanted some photos for promotion for next year. Then after I started talking to him 'some' the truth came out about why he wanted the photos and why he wanted to talk to me.

    This evening, no BS. He came right out and said they were worried and wanted me to leave. Yea, it was kinda a weird conversation in the afternoon. it started out one way like he was interested in getting some photos . But ended up with the truth coming out that they think photogs, at least male ones are perverts.

    Any analog ladies out there?

    Are the ladies hassled like men photogs when they point their cameras at kids?

    Luckily we can shoot all sorts of things beside kids. It would be hell trying to do battle like this day in and day out. This is like double the stress of street photography. It is like taking pix of a bomb ready to blow...you can't relax one bit!

    I had forgot, but I was hassled about 8 years ago at a public pool. I was testing an underwater video cam. I snorkeled around the pool taking test video of whatever was in the water...kids, adults, floats. Maybe 2 minutes if that worth of vid. A lifeguard hassled me about shooting the video. I told him yes I shot kids, adults anything I could to see how it worked. I told him I wasn't taking it diving before giving it at least a small test. He didn't get it.
    I have to admit, even as a photographer, I feel like SOME of what you describe would even freak me out and bother me. I don't know why, I guess I just find it hard to believe that you wouldn't see why it might be creepy, perhaps you should go there with others so its not so weird.

    Or go with a 4x5 so you can explain that you're shooting "street" images just like the old days to capture the "American lifestyle" it would make it seem more legit somehow I guess.

    And underwater at a pool, that is certainly suspect...


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    BTW not saying I suspect you of being a perv, just that I think you should be more aware of how you make people feel by being aware of "time and place" of things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I have to admit, even as a photographer, I feel like SOME of what you describe would even freak me out and bother me.

    And underwater at a pool, that is certainly suspect...
    Agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Feldstein View Post
    This is where their minds are at without even thinking about what they're asking.
    I think this goes for thinking before you're shooting as well. For your own sake, Iluvmycam, it's very important to have an understanding about why you're shooting anorexics and kids. If you're drawn to these subjects instinctively or because "Diane Arbus did it" (genre conventions), when you're asked questions - which you will be - you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmycam View Post
    I was trying to shoot an anorexic lady in the afternoon. I shoot whatever is interesting.
    I'm really quite troubled by this statement. Given the sensitivity of this subject (human being), that really isn't good enough. It's certainly not what you'd tell her if she approached you, is it? This is a very timely issue, and you're lucky you didn't end up in some serious trouble. If you don't have the self-awareness, I'd suggest you don't jump in the deep end. No pun intended... sincerely.

    I hope this thread carries on and gains some weight - with the hope that it's referenced elsewhere on the net. But the last anecdote is just fuel for the fire.
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    This is also a good example of why it's important for street photographers, more than anyone else, to move with the spirit of the times. You simply cannot practise the comparatively naive working methods of a bygone era in such a politically and ethically conscious environment.
    'Cows are very fond of being photographed, and, unlike architecture, don't move.' - Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wagg View Post
    I've had that countless times while doing street photography. I think its nice to know I'm at least getting some kind of reaction to my work
    ThisAttachment 71218 delightful creature screamed at me for taking her photo and calling me a perve. Cause obviously I get my jollies by looking at women drinking coffee
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