[Ohhhh nooooooooo ! Not this again]
Originally Posted by pdeeh
So, is that simply your unsubstantiated opinion or are you claiming it as unfactual insight? Rather than a knee-jerk response, think about what I wrote above for awhile, then get back to me.
Without guys like John Coltrane, Count Basie and Duke Ellington, life....would be meaningless.
In an attempt to gain some clarity of the situation and to dampen the unease in this thread, I asked a favour of a friend and as a result, was able to take a brief glimpse into the future of Street and Public Photography.
Unfortunately, Tapatalk wouldn't let me upload the picture from my iPhone, but you can read the whole sordid story with exclusive photograph on my blog here:-
Last edited by Ming Rider; 07-07-2013 at 04:49 PM. Click to view previous post history.
"All I ask for is an M5 with a fast lens, a roll of HP5 and a street to shoot her by."
I thought about that, but you got some a'hole and they may track you down. lots of crazies around.
Originally Posted by waynecrider
No, far from it. There was no street photography with Daguerreotype and Calotype (Fox Talbot) photography. Wet plate street photography neither, except with ghost like images where the people passed the long exposure. Dry Gelatine plates in the 1870's started to allow this kind of thing but it really wasn't a thing until gelatine films (1880's) and more portable and/or miniature cameras.
Originally Posted by Ming Rider
Aside form that I concur with your sentiment and feel your pain.
sorry for your troubles ..
but if someone gives you dirty looks
and doesn't want you photographing them
shouldn't you well .. be respectful of their wishes ?
if it was my parents, and i showed up with my kids
and you continued to photograph when you were given
"the look to leave us alone" i'd be kind of pissed off too ..
i don't really care how olde or primal or whatever
street photography is, or that you are using an expensive camera
when someone suggests or tells you not to
and you continue, you pretty much deserve what you get ...
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Originally Posted by Noble
Well, as a street photog in the style of Bresson we don't ask - we shoot. Sure, sometimes we all ask for a shot. But if we can, the dedicated ones try to work candid.
Here is page 79 from my book that deals with kids...
‘Caught’ ~ Compton, CA 1973
On a photo forum, a lady asked about how to overcome her fear of photographing kids and strangers on the street. Kids are a wonderful subject for photography. But in this day and age, shooting kids can be tough. One responder suggested she should use a right angle mirror attachment, like a periscope, to sneak candid shots of the kids.
Can you imagine if I was caught shooting photos of kids with a sneaky mirror attachment? You know what they would think I was doing. I told the lady to be up front and ask permission if she is uncomfortable. But I did not support the spy attachment.
I also told her, if street photography is going to be such a dreaded fear for her, maybe she should accept the fact that she is not cut out for it. There are many areas the photographer can work in besides street photography.
I suggested to her she could try areas such as: Nature, Birds, Flowers, Landscapes, Portrait, Sports, Photoshop Composites, Astrophotography, Macro, Architecture, Travel, Abstract, Parades and Events.
We all have to come to peace with what we do best. In my own case, I aspired to be a fashion and studio photographer. But one day, it sunk in those areas of photography were not what I was suited for. So I accepted that fact and never looked back. I am a street and documentary photographer, and that is what I do best.
Don't know if that is true. (US) You can say f off or get in a fight. But the photographer right to shoot is higher than your right to refuse. (at least that is my understanding. correct me if i am wrong.)
Originally Posted by Prof_Pixel
Now with police that say no shooitng. You still have the right to shoot, but they may arrest you and they are in the wrong. But no one cares, might makes right. We just have to do the best we can to figure it all out and stay safe.
Sure, this is part of the success of street. Don't get too crazy and dnagerous for just one shot. Just move or or wait. Another shot will come up in short order. Don't kill yourself over any one shot.
Originally Posted by jnanian
Originally Posted by BrianShaw
Yes, but this is all subject to opinion. Some people hate taking photos of strangers on the street or the homeless. With their views we would all be out of biz. I try to go by what is legal and temper it with 'some' decency.
That is your choice. I wasn't trying to command anyone to shoot in any particular way. What I was commenting on is if you want to stalk and photograph a stranger's children without so much as a hello or introduction you have to expect that eventually you will run into someone who objects. And given enough time you will come across someone who objects in an inappropriate way. It is just hyperbolic to claim such a situation is illustrative of some kind of downward spiral of urban society and that it makes you physically ill. Play the game any way you want but when you throw snake eyes don't complain.
Originally Posted by Iluvmycam
I shoot suriptiously sometimes. I don't do it with children. But I know if I am caught someone might object. That's just part of the game.