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    Henri Cartier-Bresson's short comment on the 35mm "wide angle" lens:

    "The 35 is splendid when needed, but extremely difficult to use if you want precision in composition. There are too many elements, and something is always in the wrong place. It is a beautiful lens at times when needed by what you see. But very often it is used by people who want to shout. Because you have a distortion, you have somebody in the foreground and it gives an effect. But I donít like effects. There is something aggressive, and I donít like that. Because when you shout, it is usually because you are short of arguments."

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    Yeah, well, that’s just like, his opinion, man.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    Yeah, well, that’s just like, his opinion, man.
    Duuude!


    Seriously though, I think HCB makes a very strong argument.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I agree, I thought for its purpose, the image was quote effective and couldn't have been taken any other way. Then again, I grew up in the "zoom lens" era
    Oh, it certainly could have been taken another way and still been very effective. Even with the same lens.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rthomas View Post
    Henri Cartier-Bresson's short comment on the 35mm "wide angle" lens:

    "The 35 is splendid when needed, but extremely difficult to use if you want precision in composition. There are too many elements, and something is always in the wrong place. It is a beautiful lens at times when needed by what you see. But very often it is used by people who want to shout. Because you have a distortion, you have somebody in the foreground and it gives an effect. But I donít like effects. There is something aggressive, and I donít like that. Because when you shout, it is usually because you are short of arguments."
    Baloney.

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    To me, the key phrase there is "I don't like effects".

    Ok. I can understand that. A properly used wide angle certainly gives a distinct effect. Personally, I like it. A lot.

    My 50mm is becoming my favorite lens on my RB67.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    Baloney.
    Yet HCB used the 35mm lens very well.
    You should be able to see what he's getting at in that statement. As I take it, he's saying neither the photographer nor technique should intrude on the image.
    Agree or not, I think it's a valid approach, not baloney.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    I think it's total baloney.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    HCB is obviously as much a master of B.S. as a master of the camera and of editing. His whole schtick is being brilliant at B.S. The pictures are nice I will admit.

    I think a contributing factor to wide-angle overuse is technology that enables it. Old speed graphics, and the TLRs and 35mm cameras that came later, all used normal-to-slightly-long lenses because those are economical to make in large f-stops. In an era of computer-designed lenses and usable 1250ISO, wide-angles are on the table as an option in many more situations. I don't think this is a bad thing, or that it was a good thing that earlier photography was informed and limited by the technology available at the time.
    f/22 and be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    Oh, it certainly could have been taken another way and still been very effective. Even with the same lens.
    Yea like standing on top of the car aiming down at the people looking


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