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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    The best phrase I took from the (good) article: "I take the approach that the Dalai Lama suggests, looking for what I have in common with people -- and artists -- before I consider how we might differ in our views. "
    I especially liked that line as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    I know you weren't referring to post my post above.
    Yes, I was referring to the thread starter, not your post. No skin off my ass if you do or don't like Huffington Post.

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    Yep. This sounds familiar. My final paper in Philosophy of Art was about interpretation ruining art. Susan Sontag's Against Interpretation is a great essay on the subject. Also, I covered this to some extent in a thread a while ago.

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    I once deconstructed some photos people brought in for critique. What a mess!
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    I think deconstructed images should be defined as turning them into jigsaw puzzles.

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    Firstly, everyone has an opinion.

    Secondly, everyone needs to make a living.

    That brings us the uncomfortable bedfellows known as art and commerce.

    Part of the art side consists of artists, schools, teachers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Part of the commerce side consists of agents, galleries, salespeople, media writers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Put them all together and you've got the clusterfuck that is ART.
    Last edited by blansky; 08-17-2013 at 08:05 PM. Click to view previous post history.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    Firstly, everyone has an opinion.

    Secondly, everyone needs to make a living.

    That brings us the the uncomfortable bedfellows known as art and commerce.

    Part of the art side consists of artists, schools, teachers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Part of the commerce side consists of agents, galleries, salespeople, media writers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Put them all together and you got the clusterfuck that is ART.
    I have neither heard nor read a more succinct description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    Firstly...
    Remember when I said in the PM that you were one of my favorite posters?

    This is why I said that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    Firstly, everyone has an opinion.

    Secondly, everyone needs to make a living.

    That brings us the uncomfortable bedfellows known as art and commerce.

    Part of the art side consists of artists, schools, teachers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Part of the commerce side consists of agents, galleries, salespeople, media writers and of course serious bullshitters and failed artists.

    Put them all together and you've got the clusterfuck that is ART.
    I think you're a brilliant person, but if you tell me that art is a mix of artistic expression and commerce, then I'm going to have to have another drink...
    Maybe I'm the exception; I don't know. While I like it when others appreciate my work to the point that they shell out hard earned cash for one of my works, selling my work never really enters my mind as I pursue what I love so much to do.
    Am I the only one here who makes their living elsewhere, so that we can sustain our passion of being photographers/artists?

    I generally agree with your statement, but would like some clarification on the commerce thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    I think you're a brilliant person, but if you tell me that art is a mix of artistic expression and commerce, then I'm going to have to have another drink...
    Maybe I'm the exception; I don't know. While I like it when others appreciate my work to the point that they shell out hard earned cash for one of my works, selling my work never really enters my mind as I pursue what I love so much to do.
    Am I the only one here who makes their living elsewhere, so that we can sustain our passion of being photographers/artists?

    I generally agree with your statement, but would like some clarification on the commerce thing.
    Thanks for the "brilliant" comment but believe me, it is extreme hyperbole.

    My comment was not about art but about ART.

    What you do is art. ART is the phenomena that happens when the middlemen/women appear on the scene to help in the creation, marketing and distribution of art.

    Unfortunately artists are rarely good at commerce, therein lies the vacuum.
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    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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