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    Quote Originally Posted by blansky View Post
    You want entropy, photograph children.
    Or animals.

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Earley View Post
    Entropy: Sending your film to a less than stellar lab and getting back someone elses photos.
    ...which are better than your own.

    'Cows are very fond of being photographed, and, unlike architecture, don't move.' - Oscar Wilde

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    Entropy

    I recommend getting a copy of "Art and Fear" by David Bayles and Ted Orland.
    There is an e-book addition.

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    Also, 'Art and Ear' by Gauguin.

    But seriously, ^ that book has been on my reading list for too long.
    'Cows are very fond of being photographed, and, unlike architecture, don't move.' - Oscar Wilde

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    +1 for Art and Fear!
    "He took to writing poetry and visiting the elves: and though many shook their heads and touched their foreheads and said 'Poor old Baggins!' and though few believed any of his tales, he remained very happy till the end of his days, and those were extraordinarily long "- JRR Tolkien, ' The Hobbit '.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntenny View Post
    I was going to point that out if you didn't, not just to show off my hypertrophied left brain but because I think it's actually kind of relevant to photographic aesthetics. Bear with me here....
    NT, Wow. That's an amazing way to think about it! A solid actual connection!

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    Entropy is very real and tangible.

    We try to organize and build our lives (expending much energy to do so), all-the-while the world around us rips, tears, and hammers away at that organization. When we run out of energy to organize/build/maintain it starts falling apart.

    I could provide an example from politics here, but I will behave.

    entropy |ˈentrəpē|
    noun
    1 Physics a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.(Symbol: S )
    2 lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder: a marketplace where entropy reigns supreme.
    3 (in information theory) a logarithmic measure of the rate of transfer of information in a particular message or language.
    DERIVATIVES
    entropic |enˈträpik|adjective.
    entropically |enˈträpik(ə)lē|adverb
    ORIGIN mid 19th cent.: from en-2‘inside’ + Greek tropē ‘transformation.’
    entropy
    noun
    life is a struggle against entropy: deterioration, degeneration, crumbling, decline, degradation, decomposition, breaking down, collapse; disorder, chaos.
    Mark Barendt, Beaverton, OR

    "We do not see things the way they are. We see things the way we are." Anaïs Nin

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnielvis View Post
    There is no iso standard measure of entropy like the base kilogram weight.
    Actually there is a scientific description/definition/formulas that define it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy...hermodynamics) There are also countless examples happening around us day in and day out that prove its existence.

    I do agree that entropy can happen within abstract, intangible, metaphysical systems like; politics, relationships, culture, my psyche, family dynamics, emotions, work situations...

    To directly photograph these can be, how should I put this, a real challenge.

    Our medium needs something physical for the light to bounce off of, we need the visible physical manifestations of entropy to show themselves in a context that makes it understandable to the viewer. (Painters have it easy here by comparison.)
    Mark Barendt, Beaverton, OR

    "We do not see things the way they are. We see things the way we are." Anaïs Nin

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    Aging is an expression of entropy. It doesn't get any more real than that. Look in your mirror today. Then again tomorrow. Or in your coffin six months after.

    Ken
    Last edited by Ken Nadvornick; 11-10-2013 at 01:49 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: A more wistful expresion of the sentiment...
    "There is very limited audience for the arty stuff, and it is largely comprised of other arty types, most of whom have no money to spend because no one is buying their stuff either. More people bring their emotions to an image than bring their intellect. The former are the folks who have checkbooks because they are engineers, accountants, and bankers—and generally they are engineers, accountants and bankers because they are not artists."

    — Amanda Tomlin, Looking Glass Magazine, 2014

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    Entropy is often called "time's arrow." Since for practical systems entropy must always increase (the Third Law) it shows that time cannot run backwards. Thus people age but do not get younger.
    Last edited by Gerald C Koch; 11-10-2013 at 12:37 PM. Click to view previous post history.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

    ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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