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    Sure it is. You're arranging what elements of the scene you're including. Now, if you mean manipulating elements of the scene (removing trash, moving branches, etc.) that would be different.

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    As long as you are successful in communicating your message, it doesn't matter.

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    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

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    I love arranged images (or maybe I prefer the word staged - but as non native speaking English, I could be wrong...) - i fI didn't I'd probably not make the images I do...

    "Contrived" is ment as a negative thing; right? (my dictonary is confused I think... it both explains it as "unnatural" and "constructed"...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    "Contrived" is ment as a negative thing; right? (my dictonary is confused I think... it both explains it as "unnatural" and "constructed"...)
    Correct.

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    Contrived has dual meanings. Negative, as in unnatural. But, it can also mean constructed, without the negative connotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Contrived has dual meanings. Negative, as in unnatural. But, it can also mean constructed, without the negative connotation.
    This is true, but even a constructed image can be contrived, as in specific construction.
    Last edited by cliveh; 05-13-2014 at 05:57 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Arranged or Spontaneous?


    I guess it depends : do you believe serendipity is better than planning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Sure it is. You're arranging what elements of the scene you're including. Now, if you mean manipulating elements of the scene (removing trash, moving branches, etc.) that would be different.
    i couldn't agree more with you ...
    i had this conversation with someone a few years ago
    regarding manipulation as well because no matter what you do
    as soon as you put the camera to the eye, "frame" / compose it in the viewfinder
    or ground glass it is manipulated, and arranged, just as when you use fast or slow shutter speeds
    or different depth of fields its all manipulated + constructed ...
    basically people with cameras construct their own reality by choosing how it will be viewed.
    some people do this masterfully and are paid handsomely as "stylists" others rely on
    the natural disorder of things to arrange the scene for them ..

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    I guess it's all in the style you prefer. Don't all of the past (and present) great portrait photographers using arranged images down to exact placement and lighting?


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