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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Technically, isn't framing a scene a form of arrangement?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Technically, isn't framing a scene a form of arrangement?
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    OP...Just depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmycam View Post
    OP...Just depends.

    A still life studio shot is not a candid street shot.
    So is it arranged?

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    Sure it is. You're arranging what elements of the scene you're including. Now, if you mean manipulating elements of the scene (removing trash, moving branches, etc.) that would be different.

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    As long as you are successful in communicating your message, it doesn't matter.

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    I love arranged images (or maybe I prefer the word staged - but as non native speaking English, I could be wrong...) - i fI didn't I'd probably not make the images I do...

    "Contrived" is ment as a negative thing; right? (my dictonary is confused I think... it both explains it as "unnatural" and "constructed"...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    "Contrived" is ment as a negative thing; right? (my dictonary is confused I think... it both explains it as "unnatural" and "constructed"...)
    Correct.

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    Contrived has dual meanings. Negative, as in unnatural. But, it can also mean constructed, without the negative connotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Contrived has dual meanings. Negative, as in unnatural. But, it can also mean constructed, without the negative connotation.
    This is true, but even a constructed image can be contrived, as in specific construction.
    Last edited by cliveh; 05-13-2014 at 05:57 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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