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    illusionary quality of photography photographs, and photographic processes

    even straight forward documentary photography isn't really what's there.
    while it can be called evidence or and artifact it isn't, its just an illusion, a reflection, a light-shadow.
    its not the kind of illusion that vanishes ( but it really is ) it can't reappear
    somewhere else ( but it can ) and it is more based in "reality" than painting and drawing
    ( not really ) ... color negatives or diapositives aren't true to life, black and white images even less

    with the ephemeral quality the materials we are all fooling ourselves with it all just like chalk on the sidewalk ?

    what do you do with the illusions you make, and do you even suggest that they might not be "real"

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    Thinking that hard gives me a headache.

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    The following statement by Allen Ginsberg seems particularly apt for this thread.

    "The poignancy of a photograph comes from looking back to a fleeting moment in a floating world. The transitoriness is what creates the sense of the sacred."
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

    ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    what do you do with the illusions you make, and do you even suggest that they might not be "real"
    I keep my images in a binder. Creative I know but they get printed and basically tossed aside except for a select few which I hang. I don't suggest that the pictures are a completely non-fictional reflection of the original. I like long exposures so most of the time it's the world as it changes through time (even if that time is only 8 seconds). Even when using shorter exposures i tend to view any of the photography as the way either I see the world or how I wish I could see the world.

    Does any of that make sense?

    Did I misunderstand the question?

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    I am constantly in dispute with those who seem to think that by interposing a physical-chemical (or indeed digitising) process between "the World" and their own perceptual apparatus, they somehow thereby gain privileged access to what's "really there" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    even straight forward documentary photography isn't really what's there.
    while it can be called evidence or and artifact it isn't, its just an illusion, a reflection, a light-shadow.
    its not the kind of illusion that vanishes ( but it really is ) it can't reappear
    somewhere else ( but it can ) and it is more based in "reality" than painting and drawing
    ( not really ) ... color negatives or diapositives aren't true to life, black and white images even less

    with the ephemeral quality the materials we are all fooling ourselves with it all just like chalk on the sidewalk ?

    what do you do with the illusions you make, and do you even suggest that they might not be "real"
    Work with a real scene and the limitations of the media whatever they are and use that to create something that looks good to me. I just took a number of photographs of my wife's friend house in France. My wife thought the house was old and ugly but the photographs now make she think why her friend's house is much better looking than ours.

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    I just spent too much time replying to your paper negative post and now I need to get to work... I'll be back!

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    All photographs are lies, often lies of omission. My current work relies on photography's inherent inability to walk behind the subject to see what is really going on.
    www.gregorytdavis.com

    Did millions of people suddenly disappear? This may have an answer.

    "No one knows that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." -Matthew 24:36

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    They call portraiture photos "a likeness" of the person. Obviously it's not the person. But you'll have a tough time convincing a jury that the photo of you holding a bloody knife in the person you just stabbed to be an illusion.

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    Here's a photo of me taken by my friend Mel, an illustrator by profession.


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    Here's a photo of a painting of me done by my friend Mel in Acrylics.
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    Which one is the real me?

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