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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    So people mount several flat screen TVs in their living rooms to show multiple movies simultaneously, just like I have multiple photographs mounted on my walls?
    Perhaps, but maybe not movies, perhaps something on a smaller scale. A good example of what I mean is Google, which for quite some time showed a still image. They now seem mostly about movement if you wish to activate. If you get the drift of my OP.

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    4-5 years ago, I got me one of them thar fancy dslrs that could take the highest resolution video, everyone raved about how good it was for video, major studios used it, even episodes of House were filmed on it (as one example I can remember).
    2 years later, and I'd only ever shot stills on it. In 5 years I've used it twice for filming my missus do poetry gigs, and never at that fancy high-def stuff.

    Even news sites and such (eg bbc.co.uk and abc.net.au), which I only read at work, I never watch the videos because I can't easily click away when the boss walks past, or grab a few seconds now and then with video like I can with text. Half the time I get rather annoyed when there's an interesting headline I follow and it turns out to be video, I can't find out what the story is about because there's no text.
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Pixel View Post
    ... video with slow pans of the B&W still images...
    Maybe it worked in that instance for the subject at hand, and I don't want to take that away from you.

    But honestly, every time I see a still photographer's website and portfolio, and they've uploaded all their photos into some flash animation that just randomly pans and zooms in and out of their images, I instantly close it before my fist goes through my monitor. No. Bad. Ugly. Stop it. If you're a still photographer, show them still. I can't appreciate the detail and the beauty of the photo if it's moving all the time. If I wanted to see movies, I'd go look at a videographer's website. I'll be glad when this fad is over.
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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    I think youtube is a exceedingly awesome use for the Internet. To me, it beats Cable/Satellite TV for creativity, innovation, entertainment. I only use my TV for youtube and netflix, and youtube is 10x the creative realm that netflix is.

    Recording video well is tougher than stills. Things like sound, holding the camera steady are the basics and harder than most people can handle and still pretty impractical with DSLRs and cell phones. It's easier to use a shoulder mounted VHS camcorder if it weren't for the quality digital video can do.

    Like Croubie, I don't watch news videos much either. Annoying ads preceding the videos, disruptive in the workplace, etc.. I can pull up a photo and appreciate that though. Still photos will go away like text or paint or pencil as a medium. Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    What is a "moving image?" They are all stills. What is your cutoff between seeing a 'still' or 'moving' image? 30 fps, 24 fps, 18 fps, 6 fps, 2 fps, 0.5 fps? The average museum viewer sees a new picture each 30 seconds, that is 0.03 picture frames per second.

    This discussion of movie vs still is not new with respect to "still" cameras. You all have seen this, right? I guess next we will be discussing if color pictures are really better than B&W now that they can be produced so easily by a cellphone... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwv82GIrHOg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Croubie View Post
    every time I see a still photographer's website and portfolio, and they've uploaded all their photos into some flash animation that just randomly pans and zooms in and out of their images, I instantly close it before my fist goes through my monitor.
    Done correctly, there are no random pans and zooms; it requires a great deal of planning to have the desired emotional impact. Note too that appropriate music is an important part of the emotional impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Pixel View Post
    Done correctly, there are no random pans and zooms; it requires a great deal of planning to have the desired emotional impact. Note too that appropriate music is an important part of the emotional impact.
    How true, once you introduce movement/sound the computations of getting what you want are a zillion +.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Movies and photographs have their own niches. Photographs can be mounted on the walls. It is hard to mount a movie on the walls.
    Unless it is a long wall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kubach View Post
    Unless it is a long wall!

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    Somehow that sounds like a stretch.
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    Stills versus movies? Different means to different ends!

    Until stop-action still photography was invented no one knew what moving things really looked like. Even the great old painters got breaking waves and galloping horses wrong.
    Until long exposure still photography was invented no one knew what a moving image integrated over time looked like. The great landscape painters never painted a waterfall like a flow of cream.
    Think of still photographs as physical facts.

    Movies are narratives and narratives, at least sometimes, consist of a stream of successive facts.
    Last edited by Maris; 06-24-2014 at 07:07 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: clarification
    Photography, the word itself, invented and defined by its author Sir John.F.W.Herschel, 14 March 1839 at the Royal Society, Somerset House, London. Quote "...Photography or the application of the Chemical rays of light to the purpose of pictorial representation,..". unquote.

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