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    Moving image v still

    With the moving image becoming more common in digital photography, do you think the still image is now or soon resigned to history?

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    hi clive

    moving images have been common in silver photography since the 1800s.
    why would a different media make a difference ?

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    Having been bored out of my mind with home videos I can't see moving images displacing a quality still. Making a good movie clip needs far more skill and expertise than most of the people have who make them. I think it will just be a tool that teenagers use to amuse them selves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    hi clive

    moving images have been common in silver photography since the 1800s.
    why would a different media make a difference ?
    Because now it is as easy to make a moving sequence with digital as it is to make a still. Not the case with film.

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

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    Not just the ease of shooting a a film but also the nature of viewing media today - was not easy to put "moving pictures" on a wall before, nowadays most photographs are viewed online where it is just as easy to view a video. I think that is just as big a change.

    I don't think photographs will ever be obsolete just like live theaters, poetry, novels or paintings weren't replaced by other competing types of media that surged in popularity or ease.

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    In 1988 Michael Evans, one of my good friends and a former presidential photographer, produced a book - HOMELESS ON AMERICA - for Tipper Gore (Al Gore's wife) and a non-profit organization. They also produced a promotional video with slow pans of the B&W still images and plaintive banjo music in the background. I found the emotional impact of the video with the slow pans and music to be much greater than just looking at the still images by themselves.

    Ken Burns later went on to make many video programs with this technique. and it has become known as the 'Ken Burns Effect'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Photographs can be mounted on the walls. It is hard to mount a movie on the walls.
    People do it all the time with large, flat screen TVs.

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    What is a "moving image?" They are all stills. What is your cutoff between seeing a 'still' or 'moving' image? 30 fps, 24 fps, 18 fps, 6 fps, 2 fps, 0.5 fps? The average museum viewer sees a new picture each 30 seconds, that is 0.03 picture frames per second.

    This discussion of movie vs still is not new with respect to "still" cameras. You all have seen this, right? I guess next we will be discussing if color pictures are really better than B&W now that they can be produced so easily by a cellphone... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwv82GIrHOg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    So people mount several flat screen TVs in their living rooms to show multiple movies simultaneously, just like I have multiple photographs mounted on my walls?
    Perhaps, but maybe not movies, perhaps something on a smaller scale. A good example of what I mean is Google, which for quite some time showed a still image. They now seem mostly about movement if you wish to activate. If you get the drift of my OP.

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

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    4-5 years ago, I got me one of them thar fancy dslrs that could take the highest resolution video, everyone raved about how good it was for video, major studios used it, even episodes of House were filmed on it (as one example I can remember).
    2 years later, and I'd only ever shot stills on it. In 5 years I've used it twice for filming my missus do poetry gigs, and never at that fancy high-def stuff.

    Even news sites and such (eg bbc.co.uk and abc.net.au), which I only read at work, I never watch the videos because I can't easily click away when the boss walks past, or grab a few seconds now and then with video like I can with text. Half the time I get rather annoyed when there's an interesting headline I follow and it turns out to be video, I can't find out what the story is about because there's no text.
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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