You miss the point, because you read it out of context of the original post and the subsequent discussion. The point is that digital sensors offer no replacement or substitute for what can currently be done with LF and MF systems. Therefore, users of such systems are justified in their concern over the disappearance of specific films or film in general, whether the demise is imminent or not. I was never saying anywhere that MF or LF film photography is inaccessible. Rather, I was referring to the fact that if film runs out, digital in the same format is not likely going to plug the gap, and the equipment will be likely obsolete. We were talking about emotional issues, not the current state of affairs per se. This is BTW the reason it helps to stay more or less on topic, otherwise after a while nobody knows what we are talking about any longer.
Originally Posted by Roger Cole
Back to being defensive. Saying zero digital on apug is part of that defensiveness. If it were "any mix as long as it's captured analog" were the rule here, we'd be more "tolerant" / openminded / creative and there'd be less defensiveness here.
cut that out, your are supposed to be defensive ... not opening another can of worms, kettle of fish, can of beans bag of salad (triple washed )
Originally Posted by jp498
box of film, bag of paper, box of pizza, coffee-can of old nails+screws, can of paint, jar of spackle ... et. al.
where's thread about the camera gone round the world, maybe we can sacrifice one of their chickens to keep sensors at bay ..
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So "if the film goes away the cameras are usless" then? Well, so? The same is true of 35mm, at least the cameras if not the lenses. I guess I still don't see the point behind the point, as it were. (Nor do I think there would be an gap to fill quality wise, just in making old equipment useful again and nothing lasts forever.)
Originally Posted by dorff
If you want to use Dig cam or cam phone please use it.
If you want to scan negs ditto.
If you want to use film, wet print or wet plates then all the volume cost reduction was from Mr and M's average happy snappering and cine theatre attendance, etc.
You just cannot blame commerce for increasing prices when they have been artificially low cause of other peoples volume.
If I see some on the street using a pinhole does not upset me, any more than a x100.
I've seen a lady with some sort of tablet attached to two box brownies with lots if black PVC tape so I say 'stereo?'
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LF gear is more accessible than ever, perhaps. I haven't compared prices of 8x10 equipment now with 10-15 years ago so I can't say. I can say that 15 years ago I could afford even color 8x10 film, and now I can't afford any except for x-ray. So the equipment is accessible, maybe, I just can't use it.
Originally Posted by Roger Cole
Nice work. You have a very talented computer.
Originally Posted by cliveh
I hate digital since my first digital camera .. a soapbox with 3x zoom and max 100 pictures per battery charge ( sometimes )
I hate when i use first " pro " 6M pixel Canon EOS
I hate later cameras not having dials
I hate empty proprietary shaped batteries
I hate xD memories 2 GB limit.
I hate my laptop not reading SD larger than 2GB
I hate my crashed laptop's HDD and the replacelent and the replacement of replacement and endless windoze reinstalls.
I hate my faulty SD used in a Nikon Df
I love my Nikon Df wich i use to scan my slides and my Nikon F4 negatives
When i want to look at my pictures, slides or negatives the only tool needed is my eye, not mains powered tablet or laptop with screen/ projector.
2) An oil paint Rembrandt is more expensive than any digital image or even film print, supposedly they exist over 10 years
So much hate ... seems a terrible waste of energy
Nah, a little targeted bile can change things, and make the person feel better. Easier still to never hang out with camera club types who care what other people are shooting with. I barely notice which cameras other photographers use, but I'm sure it'll have no correlation with the aesthetic quality of their work.
Originally Posted by pdeeh
Snippity snip snip
huh probably more than about 80% of apug is like that ...
Originally Posted by blockend
whenever there is an " us and them " sort of framework it never ends well
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