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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    is analog / chemical photography in such a state ( and this website too ? )
    that there is only a place for serious photographers, people who talk, act and look serious all the time
    and no room for humor at all because we are all so seriously full of ourselves that we cant see the forest through
    the trees and see how utterly ridiculous we all can be.

    endless gear thread
    endless ideal dev threads
    endless film threads
    and after these endless threads
    endless whining and moaning
    because all we are so seriously unhappy with stuff.
    ( cheap cobbled together gear ( that we never cla'd never worked )
    state of industry, being looked at while photographing
    being asked if your plastic TLR is a hassleblad the list is too long to write ... )

    the ideal is whats in your hands and between your ears.
    people seem to avoid the obvious, hone in on the ridiculous

    to me at least, it seems seriously ridiculous
    Can only agree. Over time I've become weary with the tunnel vision of a lot of photographers.

    By way of an example I've many friends who are artists in a range of disciplines: printmakers (woodcuts, screen printers), writers, sculptors, painters and I'm always struck by the difference between their artistic outlook and my photographer friends. The others are more interested in challenging themselves, their ideas, their skills and trying to 'say something' through their art. My photography friends are much more interested in equipment and all that that involves rather than why they photograph in the first place. Maybe it's not a typical example for others but it does illustrate a point.

    As for artistic growth, I know who I learn more from. Their art is as serious as your life, but part of that means looking critically at it, testing it, and yes, being irreverent. A dedication to developing skills and craft doesn't exclude laughing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by momus
    The internet has also, by and large, destroyed photography
    well, quite ... we'd all still have proper photography if it hadn't been for those damn meddling kids ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdeeh View Post
    well, quite ... we'd all still have proper photography if it hadn't been for those damn meddling kids ...
    But if it wasn't for the internet, I would not have discovered all the fantastic photographers that I have over the last 10 years or so.

    If it wasn't for the internet, Vivian Maiers photos would most definitely be landfill.

    If it wasn't for the internet, I'd still think 35mm was as good as it gets.

    Don't diss the internet.... The internet and I have become quite good friends over the last few years (& who would have thunk it - you can use the internet for more then just porn!)

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    Just to be clear, I wasn't exactly agreeing with momus

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiatluX View Post
    Mooaan..
    Alter declention and sing repetitively to tune of

    'Jolein Jolein Jolein... dont take away my kchrome just cause you can'

    apologies about the prosody...

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    We Know the truth!

    I admit that i'm lost with this concept. Everyone today mentions photography. It is too difficult to be with people who speak of photography as a result of an evolution of the image. A lot of them do photography as a simple SMS. You feel alone when you think at your work in the darkroom or at carry off heavy equipment... I feel myself like a man that in the era of the laser is still utilising the "A.Volta battery". There is no solution, it remains the certainty of the higher result and the satisfaction in our process, but, I cannot forecast about who seeks and appreciates this result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoffy View Post
    ...you can use the internet for more then just porn!
    hmmm... like what, for example? now you got my attention!

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    I try not to be too serious a lot of the time.

    Sometimes I think I am going to get flamed for it but I don't really care!


    Steve.
    "People who say things won't work are a dime a dozen. People who figure out how to make things work are worth a fortune" - Dave Rat.

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    Jnanian is quite correct, this site has become far too serious. I used to have a humorous definition of something innocuous, and another member(after I had it for several years)accused me of being political and Sean removed it and will never allow me to use it again. A couple of days ago, I received a PM from Sean again about another member who takes himself far too seriously, complained of a bit of sarcasm I posted on one of his self promoting threads, asking Sean to kick me off here. The reality is he should be removed for some of his vitriolic posts and bizarre rants on other peoples threads. I appreciate a bit of good natured jibing, and will at times even post threads inviting witty and/or sarcastic replies.
    Hey, all you members of the PC police, I think you are suffering from what I call CRIS (cranial rectal insertion syndrome).
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    What's ridiculous is a digital (website) for analog work. It's all digital, folks, now move along.

    In life you only get one great dog, one great car, and one great woman. Pet the dog. Drive the car. Make love to the woman. Don't mix them up.

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