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    Quote Originally Posted by 127
    When I worked as a C++ programmer (about 10 years ago) I came to the conclusion that C++ was invented by Bjarne as a stunt to promote his book. Why else would it have so many boobytraps? Completley unfathomable rules about virtual/non-virtual contrutors/destructors.
    A language I thoroughly enjoy using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurrayMinchin

    Artistic expression originates within the artists mind, and can be manifested in any medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127
    Now there's a book I'm glad I don't have to read any more!

    When I worked as a C++ programmer (about 10 years ago) I came to the conclusion that C++ was invented by Bjarne as a stunt to promote his book. Why else would it have so many boobytraps? Completley unfathomable rules about...

    eeee....hooo boy!

    And to me, there is a subtle and aesthetically pleasing beauty to the language.

    I take absolutely no offense to your view. I too felt that way about C++ at one time. Might have even been ten years ago. The language hasn't changed much in that time. I guess I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt
    I just visited the Louvre in Paris and there where not photographs there. I also visited the Orsay and no photographs there. I ask where there were photographs in Paris and was directed to an show hung on a fence.

    Art?
    The museums in Paris are defined by periods of time. The Louvre artwork pretty much predates photography (though not entirely). The Orsay has an entire room dedicated to early photography, though the presentation is somewhat different than we would expect from a typical museum. The museum time frame ends in the early 1900's. The photography is large volumes of small images that are presented more as history than art. I haven't been to the museum of modern art in Paris, but I would go there and look before writing off the entire city... And there tend to be a number of temporary photography showings in galleries or museums throughout the city. Better luck next visit...

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    The Orsay photography page...

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    Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or imagination, or both.

    Photography is the process of making pictures by means of the action of light. It involves recording light patterns, as reflected from objects, onto a sensitive medium through a timed exposure. The process is done through mechanical, chemical or digital devices commonly known as cameras.

    Definitions courtesy of wikipedia.org

    Both photographer & artist have tools to create. Whether you choose oils, pastels, charcoals or film to project your final image is irrelevant (in my opinion).
    Last edited by Dorothy Blum Cooper; 12-03-2005 at 03:07 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    We've had this discussion before, but at that time it was everyone against Michael Scarpitti / Ornello Pederzoli...
    As I recall, Scarpatti also known for frequenting "love of older women" forums...

    Perhaps your admin was one of Scarpatti's conquests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattCarey
    As I recall, Scarpatti also known for frequenting "love of older women" forums...

    Perhaps your admin was one of Scarpatti's conquests?

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    Hmmm, now that I think of it, I've never seen Scapetti/Ornello and she in the same room at the same time...naw.


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    Strange, the 1960s film "The Eyes of Laura Mars" takes on this exact question with much hubbaballoo. "Are these violent images a way for Mars to insinuate photography into the world of Art?!" or something like that. Had me nonplused; thought that dead horse had been all flogged out some time around 1930.

    Art's a pretty slippery word to define, so I wouldn't get too hung up on it. Poetry, after all, is just picking words from a dictionary -- you're not "creating" anything. *cough*.

    I think I'll hang my hat on the St. Francis quote. Seems a good redoubt in casual conversion.

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    I think what I find interesting is that we are pretty much talking about the context/history of one's work, even to define the content of it. I mean that's too informationally driven. But art speaks from the heart, and it touches someone else's. It cuts that kind of a path when it communicates with the audience.

    The essence of the work of art historians seems to have become more like censorship in a way. It's the same process as contests and competitions where you look at the juries and judges, and I don't know much luck you can have to win their desires that you don't know too much about because you don't really care in the first place.

    But you still have to meet their requirements, which may have nothing to with the work itself. So, even if they deny your work, that doesn't mean your work doesn't exist or means/values less than it is. It does exist and has a full body of energy and spirit potentially others can feel. It's a matter of luck that when your work meets the audience, true audience, you will be acknowledged as an artist.

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