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    has everything been done?

    in another thread, which i started this morning, their is some reluctance to discuss issues that some say have already been addressed

    so what!

    hasn't everything already been done?

    why photograph a sunset? it's been done

    why photograph a beautiful woman? it's been done

    why discuss an issue that has already been addressed? by who? when? maybe i want up to date feedback on the issue

    why endlessly discuss stuff that tries to second guess issues that highly trained people have already worked out? is that all that is done on this site?

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    if it's been done before, it doesn't concern me, I probably haven't done it, and even then I don't care if I have done it before.

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    Possibly everything has allready been done.
    It doesn't matter at all.
    Go out and photograph.
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    "by who?" Not to put too fine a point on it, but it is better expressed "by whom?" the object of a preposition. This is the same conversation, only expressed in proper grammatical terms. We see here a similar theme. Since most people's sense of history begins at about the time of birth, history must be studied in order to be learned.

    I will grant you that many things photographic have been done by someone already, but this does not mean there is no substance in doing it in one's own way. There will never be another Weston, Ray or Zoe but we still take pictures. Besides, there's always digital. tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    in another thread, which i started this morning, their is some reluctance to discuss issues that some say have already been addressed

    so what!
    Some issues have been addressed, many ad nauseam. It is considered polite to search the older threads before starting a new one on an old topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    hasn't everything already been done?
    Yes, but no. Not by me, at least

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    why photograph a sunset? it's been done
    Not exactly that sunset from that position at that time, it hasn't!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    why photograph a beautiful woman? it's been done
    Again - not that beautiful woman on that time by that photographer. Besides I've never felt a need to "justify" photographing beautiful women. Excapt sometimes to my wife...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    why discuss an issue that has already been addressed? by who? when? maybe i want up to date feedback on the issue
    Then find the old thread and add to it. It will show up in the recent posts, and the discussion will take off again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    why endlessly discuss stuff that tries to second guess issues that highly trained people have already worked out? is that all that is done on this site?
    Not all, but it seems to be an important part. Yet once in a while new knowledge comes out of it, or old knowledge that was all but forgotten is "exhumed" and reenters the common knowledge. That's valuable, IMO. And some of the "highly trained people" are frequent contributors here, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    in another thread, which i started this morning, their is some reluctance to discuss issues that some say have already been addressed
    so what!
    hasn't everything already been done?
    No. Not even close. Art is infinite.

    why photograph a sunset? it's been done
    Not the one I saw last night - or will see tonight. They are all different.

    why photograph a beautiful woman? it's been done
    Not ALL beautiful women have been photographed - and not by me - and not in every way possible.

    why discuss an issue that has already been addressed? by who? when? maybe i want up to date feedback on the issue
    To learn. To 'see' through the eyes and "being" of someone else. *VERY* little of that has "been done".

    why endlessly discuss stuff that tries to second guess issues that highly trained people have already worked out? is that all that is done on this site?
    "Highly trained people"??? (not only that, but !!!) ... Who are they? ... and what, specifically, have they "worked out"?

    This isn't a matter of "training" -- it is a matter of seeing, of life, of being ... of operating beyond the sense of reality ... Do you honestly think all of that has "been done"?
    Carpe erratum!!

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    Traveling to work a few months ago i noticed some graffiti that for some reason grabbed my attention. Someone had scrawled in foot hight letters:
    "Say Something New". (not a 'new' sentiment I'm sure!)

    I'm not sure that my photography has developed to the point that it 'says' anything at all yet, but perhaps one day I'll make an image that says something new...

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    Yes, all the great photographs have been made, there will be no more. That gives us time to post comments on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Heath
    why photograph a sunset? it's been done
    The Sunset taking place tomorrow has not been photographed yet and changes are good it will be different from all the previous ones. Most of them are.

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    If we assume a question is being asked to gain some information in an efficacious manner, it is only polite to refer to the Search function.

    As for the other stuff,
    as boring as it is,
    it's all been done.

    Now, we're just sitting here, online.

    Yawn.

    Waiting.



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    and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"

    -Bertrand Russell

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