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    "Rage, rage, against the dying of the light!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw
    I honestly don't understand why anyone needs autofocus.
    I didn't either until I hit 50... and got into trifocals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith
    The problem I see with most people who use digital compacts for family/holiday snapshots is that they don't tend to print them out any more so they only exist on a computer or a CD.
    Why do you care what other people do with their photos? If you want to print yours, print them. If others don't, what exactly makes it your business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith
    If you find a CD, you are unlikely to spend time putting it into a computer to have a look. These images will probably be lost forever.
    Oh, really? If the CD has Family Photos written on it, would you really pass it by? Moreover, the average digishooter is probably now more used to photos on CDs than in albums, so taking a look would seem rather natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddym
    I didn't either until I hit 50... and got into trifocals.
    Well, I grudgingly admit to being "49 and holding" and I still have good near vision (for now -- knocking on wood), and can focus both the rangefinders and the Pentax quite easily.

    However, back in 1997 I decided I needed a decent small "carry everywhere" camera. I realized that I was missing many shots because I didn't have anything, period, with me at the time. I wanted a purse-sized camera, but still one that had a good lens and could do decent real photography. I eventually settled on the Olympus Stylus Zoom (yeah, a film camera), the one with the 35-70 zoom and yes, autofocus.

    I really don't need autofocus.

    However, the choice in small reasonably-priced point-n-shoot cameras was (and still is) either fixed focus or autofocus. So, autofocus is the lesser of the evils.

    One reason I chose this model was that it had almost zero shutter lag.

    At first I kinda forgot about focus, until one night at a party I took a shot of my then-boss and his assistant, a shot that I hoped would be a keeper, but the autofocus locked on to the wall 20 feet behind them and dead center in the photo. Since then I got into the practice of "focusing" first, meaning center on the subject, holding the shutter half way down to focus, set autoexposure/flash, and then recompose and shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brac
    Covered with buttons & sliding bits and made of what felt like incredibly flimsy plastic, I had to ask for an instant crash course in how to operate it.
    I'm the same with modern 35mm film camera's...I usually have to ask the person how to turn on their camera. My 35mm for family colour snap-shots is a Pentax K1000 who's battery ran out 2 years ago, and I haven't bothered to put in a fresh one. I just take a wild guess on exposure based on the f16 rule or use a manual flash indoors.

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    I just returned from 2 days at the Winnipeg Folk Festival, and was amazed to see how many people were shooting with their little p&s digitals. It was like a mini-fireworks show at dusk. Many of them were trying to shoot the performers onstage from roughly 200 yards out. So from the vantage point of most of the audience, there was lot of flashing going on. My guess is that very few shots turned out unless the GN's from some of these units is a lot further than I think they are!
    "While you're out there smashing the state, don't forget to keep a smile on your lips and a song in your heart!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw
    I honestly don't understand why anyone needs autofocus.
    I don’t either and my eyes are not the greatest. All I need is a ground glass and loupe and good to go. AF is a waste. And with the blad, I just focus as much as I can see then stop the lens down to pick up where my eyes leave off.

    Oh and yes I use the blad for family snapshots, never a problem even when the kids are running around either. Pratice is all it takes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didzis
    Oh, really? If the CD has Family Photos written on it, would you really pass it by? Moreover, the average digishooter is probably now more used to photos on CDs than in albums, so taking a look would seem rather natural.
    Storage mediums change abnd get outdated. My fear is that there will be a day where finding that CD-ROM that says "Family Photos" will be the same as finding a box of punch Cards marked "Family Photos" in this day. Pretty much not going ot be seeing them again without spending a handful of time & effort tracking down some vintage equipment.

    Human eyes should be around for quite a long time yet, and they're all that will be needed to views a photo album that says "Family Photos" written on it for many thousands of years to come.
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    I shot a Folk gig last night

    Quote Originally Posted by thebanana
    I just returned from 2 days at the Winnipeg Folk Festival, and was amazed to see how many people were shooting with their little p&s digitals. It was like a mini-fireworks show at dusk. Many of them were trying to shoot the performers onstage from roughly 200 yards out. So from the vantage point of most of the audience, there was lot of flashing going on. My guess is that very few shots turned out unless the GN's from some of these units is a lot further than I think they are!
    Thankfully it was in a club and I used a Nikon F2 loaded up with Ilford Delta 3200 and packed the Nikkor 35 f2, 50 f1.4 and 105 f2.8. I develop tonight.

    I remember the thread where parents were trying to document their kid's university graduation with camera phones, if that is not set up for disappointment, I don't know what is.

    Bill
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