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    This is one of those photographs that demonstrates why the online galleries are and should be a marginal part of APUG. There is just no comparison between the prints of this photographer and the reproductions of them in books (well, I've read that one book gets it right, but I haven't had a chance to hold that one in my hand yet), and certainly not on a computer monitor.

    I would say that this is not an interesting image (the thing that gets reproduced), but it is an interesting photograph (the original print). The print is all about visual texture and tone, and these are precisely what get lost in reproduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
    This is one of those photographs that demonstrates why the online galleries are and should be a marginal part of APUG.
    Rather a sweeping conclusion! Of course a screen display does not have the quality of a fine print, but how else are we going to find out what kind of work each of us is doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington
    Rather a sweeping conclusion! Of course a screen display does not have the quality of a fine print, but how else are we going to find out what kind of work each of us is doing?

    Regards.

    David
    Print exchanges, postcard exchange, traveling portfolio, APUG gatherings.

    I didn't say we should eliminate the galleries. They do have a function, but we should view them with considerable skepticism.
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    I hardly ever go to the galleries. Photographs are photographs, not non-tactile screen candy.

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    You know, Michael, some will find it boring and derivative which is exactly why they like it.

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    I actually find the whole exercise interesting. But instead of evaluating an image without revealing the artist post an image by an artist (well known or not so well known) and discuss why we like it or don't like it. I personally find discussing work in such a manner pretty interesting.

    I think it was maybe about a year ago that bjorke posted some images from a gallery show which produced some good discussions (or maybe not so good?).
    I think it was a show of prints by Gursky but I am probably way off base.
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    so who actually bothered to make a comment re the original question??

    this image is quite boring and literal, regardless of who made it and what qualities the print may have

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    I like it. And in saying that I do not mean I want it on my wall.

    It isnt trying to be anything it is not. No grand vista of a mountain scene extolling the awe of nature. No babbling brook exposed at 15seconds giving a sense of sound. No tears or blood. I.E. whether it was made 50 years ago or yesterday it is not any of the things a "great" photo as I understand it is supposed to be. It is just a clear picture of something that grew that is now sitting on a plate.. And in that it is good. I cannot think of much that would have made this thing sitting on a plate any better. Not having photographed or presenting it all surely wouldnt have made this a better photo in my mind. I would rather look at this than at nothing. If this was the only photograph on earth I would prefer to have this than to not have it. So yes, it is good and I like it.
    "Where is beauty? Where I must will with my whole Will; where I will love and perish, that an image may not remain merely an image."

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    Is this a good photo?

    No.

    Of course not.

    This is why we have garbage cans in our darkrooms. Money grubbing gallery owners or money hungry relatives may get their hands on our exposure / development tests and pawn the crap off as ART after we die...rip all your tests in half just in case you get famous!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurrayMinchin
    Is this a good photo?

    No.

    Of course not.

    This is why we have garbage cans in our darkrooms........

    Murray
    If you had to like a photograph of an eggplant on a plate, that being the only type of photograph existing in the fantasy world applicable to this question: How would it need to be photographed in order to be good and not worthy of the garbage can? Or in this fantasy land would you prefer no photographs at all (seeing as photos of eggplants on plates were all that existed) seeing as you could not improve on this one?
    "Where is beauty? Where I must will with my whole Will; where I will love and perish, that an image may not remain merely an image."

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