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    If we're doing poems.

    I was forced to read Eliot in school, combing him for obscure nits and dried crusts of wit, and hated him as a result. I discovered his Four Quartets while writing up my PhD, and they have been a guide to my personal creativity ever since. Some quotes:

    [...]
    In the knowledge derived from experience.
    The knowledge imposes a pattern, and falsifies,
    For the pattern is new in every moment
    And every moment is a new and shocking
    Valuation of all we have been.
    [...]

    [...]
    So here I am, in the middle way, having had twenty years—
    Twenty years largely wasted, the years of l'entre deux guerres
    Trying to use words, and every attempt
    Is a wholly new start, and a different kind of failure
    Because one has only learnt to get the better of words
    For the thing one no longer has to say, or the way in which
    One is no longer disposed to say it. And so each venture
    Is a new beginning, a raid on the inarticulate
    With shabby equipment always deteriorating
    In the general mess of imprecision of feeling,
    Undisciplined squads of emotion. And what there is to conquer
    By strength and submission, has already been discovered
    Once or twice, or several times, by men whom one cannot hope
    To emulate—but there is no competition—
    There is only the fight to recover what has been lost
    And found and lost again and again: and now, under conditions
    That seem unpropitious. But perhaps neither gain nor loss.
    For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business.
    [...]

    [...]
    We shall not cease from exploration
    And the end of all our exploring
    Will be to arrive where we started
    And know the place for the first time.
    [...]

    Poetry is even easier to rip off than photography, so you can read the whole thing here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by arigram
    Ok, for a more serious answer, inspired by Mr.Whitey
    Mr Whitey is honored

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    maybe i should have put it into the philosophy area, not the lounge i appreciate the poems and the suggestions that sometimes it isn't where you go, but getting there ( and there may not even be a "there" ) ...

    thanks for the experiences, suggestions and encouragement!

    john

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