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    Do photographs reflect the motives and reasons why they were taken?
    No. It is quite possible to be taken in completely opposite context from what the photographer saw/meant. The Pulitzer Prize photo by Edie Adams in Viet Nam is a prime example.

    Do images fail when the internal and external factors collide?
    All depends on what the definition of failure is.
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    Thank you, for all of your insightful replies.

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    Do photographs reflect the motives and reasons why they were taken?

    Hard to say...guess it's how I 'see' something. Wanting others to 'see' what and how I perceive it. Maybe that's my 'motive'...showing that beauty comes in all sorts of packages.

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    Do images fail when the internal and external factors collide?

    Sometimes it's that collision that makes brilliance...the anticipated and expected against the accidental.
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    Do photographs reflect the motives and reasons why they were taken?

    I think one would first have to answer the question: When one puts a piece of art out to the public, does it retain the spirit of intent from the artist, or is it now free to be interpreted by the viewer?

    Only if we answer that could we say whether or not the motive remains.
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    Self-reflexivity is one thing that is always there, but if you put certain photos in a position that is totally out of context, I don't know how they will be viewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARTIE View Post
    So, we're all photographers but we all motivated by many different things... lets say by both internal and external factors.

    So...

    Do photographs reflect the motives and reasons why they were taken?

    Do images fail when the internal and external factors collide?



    Martie
    The answer to both questions is yes AND no, contradictory as that may seem. A photograph, like any work of art, does reflect what the artist intended. The real questions is do we see what the artist intended and did the artist him / herself understand what it was they were trying to say?
    I saw a painting once done by Adolf Hitler before he got into politics. It was a street scene in Paris, I think. No people, no life, no inspiration. Did it reflect what he 'intended'? Some would say yes, it reflected exactly what he intended, for the world. On the other side, can we really know what Van Gogh intended with his own art? I personally would say anyone who says they understand what Van Gogh intended thinks entirely too much of their own ego. We can appreciate Van Gogh, debate his art, discuss it, agree or disagree, but can we ever really know what was in his heart, soul, or mind when he painted anything he ever painted? No. And yet it is there, right in front of us if we could only see it...

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    Both questions must be answered "sometimes"

    Some artists have deliberately manipulated the answers, such as making photographs by anonymous tripwires etc. Some images have been much more 'successful' than intended -- for example, Dirk Halstead's snap of Bill Clinton hugging an intern.

    Photography has a tremendous capacity for confounding intent. That's part of its charm.

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