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    You'd have to be pretty clearer on your definition of art to resolve that one. I don't need to cite you the large literature that exists on this problem, nor the incessant headaches it is creating in most individuals, nor the neverending but very interesting threads this creates on APUG. Finally, you probably want to ask yourself why is it that between two things of the same broad category (photo) one would be art and one would not.
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    I suppose it is quite difficult to find the exact line. But when I was working as a journalist at different local newspapers in Sweden, some photographers doing up to 12 jobs in a day never produced anything worth printing on real paper. But when I worked as a night editor of one a big newspaper, the photographers could decide what they wanted to cover and didn't just come along as a driver to the reporter... Then the photographer, picture editor and I could sometimes take up to an hour to discuss and choose the front page picture. This was almost 10 years ago and I am pretty sure no Swedish newspaper can afford this way to work anymore. I don't know if these pictures could qualify as art, and I don't relly care. But we had some really good photographers and published some really good pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris View Post
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    Or Sebastio Selgado, Susan Meiselas, Peter or David Turnley, Phillip Jones Griffiths.
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    An interesting side discussion is what is a photojournalist? I condisder Salgado and most of the work of Eugene Smith to be documentary photography. That is they had a subject that they researched and explored in depth, being able to plan many aspects of the photos. I think of the photojournalist as a person who is covering a breaking news event or action that they have absolutely no control over. They are just along for the ride so to speak.

    Maybe documentary photography is just an off shoot of the "action" photography that I consider photojournalism. Smith's WW2 work is shoot on the run stuff, but his work evolved into a documentary and photo essay style over the years.

    So maybe they are the same, but I see two seperate categories that the best photographers are able to move between with excellent results in both genres.
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