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    Quote Originally Posted by gr82bart View Post
    Now this is something interesting. What if, to some, photography is a therapy, like a journal or a diary? Is that crazy too?

    Does it have to be about communication? Why?

    Regards, Art.
    It doesn't HAVE to be about communication. It IS communication, whether you have an audience or not. A diary is a communication from self to self. In other words, it's just an external recipient for meaning, if I may deflate so ingratiously the nature of art...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhv View Post
    A diary is a communication from self to self.
    George suggests in his post that process is incomplete. Crazy even. Thoughts?

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    Like some other Amateur Photogs here, I rarely show my pics to anyone else with the exception that for some shared experiences with my wife I show them to her. And I have posted some pics I personally liked to the Gallery here.

    Part of the reason for showing few photos is related to the leisure time problem as a working stiff. Finding time to take the photos and then scan the negs and trannies alone kills an extraordinary amount of time. And when I think about having more time if/when I retire - I shudder to think of how huge the cataloging/organizing task is going to be dealing with all my pic!

    As to self communication - I do see photography for me as a form of a visual diary. I sometimes conjure up a scenario that after I'm dead some descendant relative will happen upon my pics and go through them - thereby learning a bit about who I was. But that's probably just a narcassitic fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    That's why I'm a guitar player!!!

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    That's why I was a drummer.

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    Completing the loop is part of *my* process. Id doesn't have to be part of everyone's.

    I have a friend that writes. He writes poems, stories and songs. He writes for himself. It exersizes demons and muscles and such. I've known him for 27 years. I've heard maybe five of his songs and each time it was either under duress or the influence of alcohol or both. All that I've heard was utterly brilliant. I have songwriter friends that I would have to humor with compliments. He's not one of them. He's brilliant, and knowing him...that wouldn't be a surprise anyway. He has no need to share what he does. He does it for himself. Or he's a coward. Or he finds feedback from others an insulting premise unto itself. Who really can say? He creates for reasons that has little or nothing to do with seeking acceptance or the enjoyment of others. I find it both selfish and admirable. It's not me though.
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    Why?

    Because people just won't shut the heck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
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    Cafes are a good place to show early on because they give you exposure, and they're often not very picky about whose work they show. The downside is that with few exceptions, most people going to the cafe are not there to buy art, they're there to drink coffee.
    That's exactly what I found - I planned the exhib (I had the whole cafe) a month before Christmas and a month after, thinking people would buy Christmas presents - in fact I think it worked the other way as people didn't have spare cash. I did sell two - one off the wall and one to a friend later who saw the pics in frames at home (forgot about that one in my first post as it doesn't seem to count quite, then edited it). Even though I went a couple of times and could see people looking at the prints, as you say they were there to buy coffee not spend a not insubstantial sum (I wasn't wanting to undersell myself either). Even though this café has a good reputation amongst local artists (the proprietor himself is an ex-professional photographer). It did give me exposure but I'm not sure how valuable this was overall - one portrait client (an acquaintance already - though showing no portrait pics, but still lifes) and one loony lady who contacted me....

    But - on a personal development level - well worth doing. And according to the proprietor lots of positive comments, which I think is the best you can hope for with this sort of thing and something to value - money isn't everything. Or fame

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Brown View Post
    That's why I was a drummer.
    Doesn't work though does it?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr82bart View Post
    George suggests in his post that process is incomplete. Crazy even. Thoughts?

    Regards, Art.
    I don't see what the problem is. Failed communication still has something to do with communication, just like an uneaten cake still is a cake, even though it was designed to be eaten. Are you bothered by incomplete processes? Sure, coitus interruptus is annoying, but there are no deep ontological differences between an exposed and an unexposed photography. The Aeneid wasn't meant to be published, at least if you follow Vergil's last words. Exposing a photo is taking a step further in concretizing the artistic act, but I don't think it makes one less of a photographer not to expose. It just helps to prove it better than waiting for your heir to discover the masterpieces you have kept in your drawers.
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    My only reason for delving into photography, just so happens to be the same reason I post this reply . . . so others may see it. If others could not enjoy my work, or even despise my work, then what is the purpose? If one person is inspired by my efforts, it is all worthwhile.



 

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