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    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw View Post
    If everyone is making a little money serving a niche (presumably, brilliantly), how the heck is anyone going to make a ton of money?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob F. View Post
    I'm afraid Mr. Jensen is rather missing the point. Most people belong to multiple interest groups. Always have done, always will do. Nothing new to see here, move along please...

    Technology, most conspicuously the Internet, has allowed dissemination of highly specialized information and the gathering together of special interest groups in one virtual space. There are some 13,000 NTTP newsgroups - admittedly many are inactive or full of porn... erm... or so I am told... and gawd-alone knows how many special interest websites and forums exist, some of which live for a few glorious years, and then burn out, to be replaced by two or three sites based on portions of the old site (shades of the Judea People's Front (warning: naughty words) ).

    It has always been the case that people gravitate towards things that interest them. That is a truism (and blindingly obvious). The only difference now is that groups such as APUG, or the LF.info site, or the rangefinder forum etc allow more finely grained interest groups to form. The idea that we are all going to dedicate our lives to one niche within a niche interest is not tenable for anyone not inflicted with crippling autistic monomania.

    Cheers, Bob.

    It would be nice if you could show a little more sensitivity to us C.A.M. sufferers. In the spirit of friendship I give you a month's trial, supporter status on CAMS.org
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    Well, most everyone has said about what I would so I'll leave it at that.

    I did buy a copy of lenswork once about a year ago and could see it was headed to the d-world.

    They make their choices just as I make mine.

    I just pulled a roll of HP5 out of the freezer because, if tomorrow is as nice in NYC as today was, think I'm gonna carry the CV R2S on my walk to and from work and do some "niche" analog photography!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw View Post
    It would be nice if you could show a little more sensitivity to us C.A.M. sufferers. In the spirit of friendship I give you a month's trial, supporter status on CAMS.org
    Not quite the CAM I had in mind, but the glazed and vacant looks on some of those young ladies' faces (I had to investigate several in the interest of research you understand) seemed typical of the affliction... The videos were quite low resolution so it was difficult to tell what they were doing exactly, but many seemed to be suffering from repetitive stress disorder too. Still, it's good to see that so many are receiving the therapy they need...

    Cheers, Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob F. View Post
    Not quite the CAM I had in mind, but the glazed and vacant looks on some of those young ladies' faces (I had to investigate several in the interest of research you understand) seemed typical of the affliction... The videos were quite low resolution so it was difficult to tell what they were doing exactly, but many seemed to be suffering from repetitive stress disorder too. Still, it's good to see that so many are receiving the therapy they need...

    Cheers, Bob.
    Bob F and jstraw,
    Would this just be an indication of the true confusion of the CAM era?

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    ... Hmmm..., f5.13 @ 1/23 should do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dphill View Post
    Bob F and jstraw,
    Would this just be an indication of the true confusion of the CAM era?

    Dan
    I can feel the circle of confusion widening.
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    APUG isn't a niche, it's a spandrel.

    Necessary, but not sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struan Gray View Post
    APUG isn't a niche, it's a spandrel.

    Necessary, but not sufficient.
    Yes, but as Stephen Jay Gould would ask, was it intended to be so or is it an accident of evolution?

    I've seen many interesting responses so far, and I tend to agree with the idea that creating a niche is not stealing someone else's thunder. But in parallel with the nichification of markets/academia/etc, another aspect that grew up importantly is inter-niche/disciplines relationships. Somehow, Amazon knows about all the niches you inhabit and instead of suggesting books in only one of them, it pushes them together. In academia, there's a long tradition of bringing together specialists from various horizons to work on a specific, general problem (e.g new media, sustainable development, health policy).

    Maybe APUG will strike an interesting partnership with the association of left foot podiatrists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhv View Post
    Yes, but as Stephen Jay Gould would ask, was it intended to be so or is it an accident of evolution?
    Weak Emergence. APUGers are the dust bunnies of the photographic world.

    The last time I logged on to the US version of Amazon, my personalised recommendations included some photography monographs, a few children's books, and volumes on gardening, image processing, poetry and anal sex. I swear to God I cannot think of a single mouse click I have ever made in my entire online history that would lead them to think I was interested in gardening.

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    Hmm, analog anal sex. That's something I didn't think of.
    Using film since before it was hip.


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