IF THIS SITE WENT AWAY....
How vital is APUG to preserving film photography?
I spend a lot of time here because it connects me to my "filmster philosophy" of photography. I find "comfort" here because I know that at least within this cuccoon I do not have to deal with the d****** world.
But is this place a stronghold or just a last hurrah?
Are we getting anywhere - or are we just getting stale?
I don't think that APUG members will have very much influence on the preservation of film. There aren't enough members here purchasing the quantity of film (and paper) to make a big difference.
Originally Posted by copake_ham
Enjoy film while it lasts, which I think it will for a while. Unfortunately it will continue to get more expensive every year and most likely choices for film and paper will gradually shrink.
Personally I think people spend too much time on line and not enough time in their darkroom or exposing film.
What did you do today regarding film photography?
Me? I processed 8 sheets of film.
I totaly agree. I have been finishing up my taxes and my total expenses on photography related items, including film and paper was approx. $2,000.00 U.S.
Originally Posted by donbga
If every member here spent that same amount in 2006 that still is not enough to persuade companies to keep supplying materials. I relaize, if my math is correct, that the total is approx. $4,000,000.00 and that is no small amount of change.
If you divide that by the number of suppliers then that amount of revenue rapidly decreases per supplier.
I will continue to do all I can to support film as long as I can squeeze it out of my pocket book.
"He who expecteth nothing,
Shall not be disappointed." Robert Willingham, 1907
To judge by newbies' comments, they are often often happy to discover APUG as a resource which takes the place today of the metaphorical *guy next door" from whom most people learned photography in the days of yore. I personally feel that the contraction of the analog material market has pretty much run its course, but I could be wrong. One worrying long-term factor is that analog materials users tend to focus on high levels of craft skills rather than outstanding artistic expression or originality!
Originally Posted by copake_ham
Not really, I think it's just anyone these days who mentions "craft" is automatically singled out as only caring about "craft". It is a method of attack that has become all too familiar not just in photography but any art form that digital methods have encroached upon. "This guy is talking about hand carving instead of laser carving, the guy obviously only cares about craft", "Look at that guy talking about canvas and paint, hello! get a digitablet,, these people I tell ya are all the same, all they care about is the craft side" etc etc.
analog materials users tend to focus on high levels of craft skills rather than outstanding artistic expression or originality!
The reality is artists can actually care about craft and art at the same exact time, and find it very rewarding..
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I survived without APUG for a long time when I'd started photography. I learnt the basics from my mum and to a lesser extent, my photography teacher (mothers know everything), so I don't see APUG as the last stronghold of analogue, just more of a place for people to meet and coordinate their efforts and share their interest. People get interested when they find our you're using film.
If this site went away, I'd keep taking photos, but miss the resource and encouragement it provides.
And $4 million might be one day of Kodak's film coating capacity..let alone other film manufacturers...EC
Originally Posted by Gary892
The original math is off by a factor of 10. $2000 x 20,000 members is $40,000,000. Still a drop in the bucket for Kodak. I'm also sure that I can't be the only Apug member that spent more than $2,000 last year on film, paper and chemicals.....just don't tell the Mrs.
I've been doing photography (film and digital) for the past 5 to 6 years, and only signed on on APUG a few months ago. Being able to talk analog photography with a group of APUGers just make analog photography more fun. Even without APUG, I'll continue to shoot 35mm film. I will continue to support the film industry as long as I'm able to, and hope to introduce the joys of analog photography to my future kids and grand kids.
Ed Sukach, FFP.