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    </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aggie @ Jan 21 2003, 01:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Would you let the digital medium help you with your photography, ie, use it as a tool in addition to what you do with analog photography..no matter what that adjunct usage may be?

    If you answer yes to the above question, How would you use the digital medium to help you? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
    This is difficult for me since I don&#39;t make a living, or even a portion of a living, from my photography. My wife does have a digital camera, a Nikon Coolpix 5000, that produces some nice images. I will admit that I have used it to do some experimentation. The problem for me is that the digital doesn&#39;t seem to capture many things in quite the same way that film does. Still, I have used it to play around (it takes the same flashes that my N80 does) with new ideas and have sometimes found annoying backgrounds or shadows that I hadn&#39;t considered but could be eliminated with a little work.

    Now, I find that I don&#39;t like digital as much as I like film. I do, however, see uses for it that, on occasion, make it more convenient than film.

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    </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aggie @ Jan 21 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Would you let the digital medium help you with your photography, ie, use it as a tool in addition to what you do with analog photography..no matter what that adjunct usage may be?

    If you answer yes to the above question, How would you use the digital medium to help you? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
    Sure. Why not?

    I can use all the help I can get - all gratefully accepted.

    How can/ has it helped? Well...

    I have a photograph that was originally a color negative print of a figure study. The original ... just did not "work". A matter of color, contrast ... something.

    For some reason, I scanned the contact sheet (120) and inadvertantly
    (?? sub-conscious at work?) hit the "wrong" button and converted this particular frame to black and white&#33; - Not only that, but &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

    Back to the enlarger - something of a struggle with dichroic filters and Ilford Multigrade Portfolio, and the result was a successful black and white print.

    Since then, I have used this "tinkertoy" scanner in much the same manner as my Polaroid back, but after the fact. It is useful in determining future cropping, color balance, contrast and "gamma" - generally getting some idea of what the "serious" print could look like in the future.
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    Coming trend....Hmmmmmmmmmmm..........

    I&#39;d have to say that my bet is on a revival of old techniques. I think we are already seeing it happen to some degree. Banquet cameras are being restored, Pt/Pd printing is going strong, and many people are out there buying up enlargers and timers at dirt cheap prices from "digiheads". I can imagine that a lot of young artists will find darkroom work cheaper to get into than digital and that will help define their work.

    Add to that the fact that digital has a very particular look. Digital is digital. If you want a different color balance or texture you have to do it in post. And even then you can&#39;t always get digital to look like analog film. And I think that analog look is where things will be heading. We have seen a lot of "hard" digital images. I think people will looks towards the softer look of yesteryear now.

    Pictoralism lead to the f64 movement. I think digital will lead to an analog "revival".
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    It appears there is a new interest in old or alternative techniques, and larger formats in general. People are beginning to ask about such things as cyanotype, albumen, platinum, etc. Sales of view and field cameras seems to be picking up. Maybe in the analog vs digital "wars" the reasonable people are beginning to understand they have a choice. They can have either one, or both if they want. They are learning that once they learn the procedures, they are no longer at the mercy of sloppy labs. They are beginning to get tired of all the unfulfilled promises, the letdowns and the vaporware. Meanwhile some of us are grabbing all the good "analog" stuff that is being to dumped at giveaway prices, which we could never quite afford before. I like digital... It made the analog stuff I want a hell of a lot cheaper. <wink wink say no more>

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    I believe there is a BIG revival of old techniques, if not equipment. Both Artcraft Chemicals and Photorapher&#39;s Fromuarly are out of Amidol these weeks. Amidol, of all things.

    I personally think it&#39;s the internet. I have been doing LF photography since 1990, almost all of that time in a vacuum in which I never met another LF photographer. I learned nothing of the LF medium except from View Camera magazine and the old Ansel Adams books.

    Today I communicate daily with more than a few like-minded photographers. I know all about Azo and Amidol and Pyro and PMK and ABC and WD2D from the internet. I just minutes ago had an email discussion with someone about spot metering.

    I think Philip Greenspun, Tuong and Michael Smith have a lot to do with this. I used to hold my breath for View Camera to come in the mail every month, and now it&#39;s almost obsolete for me because I get so much more information from so many other sources. And almost all of it involves decades or centuries old processes, materials, and sometimes equipment.

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    As an aside, there has been a jump in demand for the equipment too. In the latest issue of View Camera, one of the camera makers put in an ad saying they will not be taking new orders for a while... They have had so many orders that the backlog is just too much. It looks like the companies that have supported our little niche market for years may finally be rewarded for sticking by us. I hope they all make a pile of money.

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    The other day I went to a rather large photo shop in order to buy a plastic reel for a Jobo tank. The young salesman there gave me look full of pity when I asked him about the reel and said that the shop was going digital bla, bla ,bla. But...somewhere at the back there was a pile of old darkroom stuff and I could take a look there. Browsing through all the old stuff I got talking to an elderly gent (son of the owner) who said that lots of customers who had bought a digital camera, printer and other paraphernalia would come back some weeks after their purchase to buy back the analogue SLRs and enlargers. Some 60% he claimed.
    So analogue friends take heart, fight the good fight and keep on tripping that shutter and develop that film with good cheer.
    Digital is best taken with a grain of silver.

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    I think I mentioned elsewhere that one of the guys at the film counter at B&H was also surprised by the recent increase in sales of sheet film.

    I&#39;m finally trying to get some holders for this 11x14" camera I picked up a few months ago. Lens & Repro had some on their website, but they said they sold out immediately, so I emailed Quality Camera to order two of the S&S holders, and they say they&#39;re selling them as fast as they can make them, so that&#39;s another good sign.
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    Which I guess explains the prices for those barrel lens that cover larger then 8x10.

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