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Old 03-05-2008, 08:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Apologies, if there's already a thread on this that I've missed, mods please merge. Also, if this would be more appropriate in a different forum, again, please move.


See below for the Metropolitan Police's latest advertising campaign:

http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/c...amera_2008.pdf


Personally, I think it's a bloody disgrace and just another step in creating the "climate of fear" required for the police state to take hold; I'm writing to my MP, the head of the Met police, and the candidates for the London mayoral election to make clear my opinion on the matter. I'd be interested to know what other views people hold though.

(As an aside, I find the "let experienced officers decide what action to take" element particularly chilling. Lest we forget, these are the experienced officers who shot an innocent man in the head 7 times because he looked foreign, without a single person taking responsibility.)
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I saw it on another site. I particularly liked one of the comments:

"Even more fun, is that they're asking you to report people who are taking pictures of CCTV cameras.
If only they had some sort of device, perhaps an automated one, that could observe people remotely... perhaps an entire network of visual recording devices that would work like television, that could be monitored by a government employee at a central location, all hooked up to a special circuit, a private one, "closed" if you will..."



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See the Are you a bootlickin' photographer thread for a link to something similar.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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See below for the Metropolitan Police's latest advertising campaign:

http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/c...amera_2008.pdf

Personally, I think it's a bloody disgrace and just another step in creating the "climate of fear" required for the police state to take hold.
Thanks for the insight into the next potential phase of the ongoing war on photographers. Our city, Calgary, is just now installing the first 20 public surveillance CCTV camera, so we locals may need to be careful we are not photographing those cameras.

The only saving grace (if there is one possible in this story) is that the advert uses a point and shoot camera (instead of an SLR or a View Camera). It is a small comfort, but perhaps now we "alternative" users will have more "company" in the eyes of the authorities.
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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It's 1984 all over again.
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As long as you can fully demontrate that your notes are Zone system related, taking pictures of cameras should be fine.
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1984 plus Farenheit 451. Double-plus ungood, bring on the firemen!
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As long as you can fully demontrate that your notes are Zone system related, taking pictures of cameras should be fine.
Mention of the Zone System might well be interpreted as a Terrorist Cell organizing system. Be sure to have a Zone System book in your bag. One by Ansel Adams would be good, he has lots of calendars out.
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We have to remember that the police are just ordinary people trained to do a specific job. I work in an unrelated industry with ordinary people trained in their rolls, and some of the decisions they make are also quite odd.
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As long as you can fully demontrate that your notes are Zone system related, taking pictures of cameras should be fine.
Imagine the scenario: London is once again on high alert and two people are overheard on the underground. One says to the other. "I've worked it all out and today I should be able to nail zone three(III), five(V) and eight(VIII). All the others on the tube cannot see the roman numerals and think the references to someone called AA and leaders confirm their suspicions.

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