Discussions: 45,159 | Messages: 608,973 | Members: 29,920 | Online: 301 | Chatroom: 0
User Name:  Password:
 

"That is called grain. It is supposed to be there." -Flotsam


 
APUG search    RSS MOBILE
Customize Sidebar
Gum-Silver Process
Author: Dwane
1107 view(s)
aj 12 + various things
Author: jnanian
636 view(s)
Kodak D-19
Author: Tom Hoskinson
953 view(s)
Go Back   APUG > APUG English Forums > General Discussion > Ethics and Philosophy > Removal of People from Portraits

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-09-2008, 10:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Howell View Post
There is Art and then there is NEWS, altering NEWS is altering history and is just plain wrong. Altering Art, well that goes with the territory.
If only it was that simple.

Take the photograph, "Dead Taliban Fighter, Afghanistan" from the book "History" by Luc Delahaye. <photograph is visible here at the bottom of the page>

This is a photograph that has appeared both in newsprint as well as on the walls of art galleries.

Now is it "Art", "NEWS", both or neither?
Akalai is offline   Reply With Quote Ignore this user Ignore this thread Ignore this forum
Old 04-09-2008, 10:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 104
Default

...more thoughts: isn't the fact that the original photographs contained people a crucial piece of information that ought not to be missing? How would the viewer respond to the artwork if they did not know that they are (were) portraits by August Sander? It seems to suggest that the photographer found an 'innovative' way to utilize a well-known name to gain publicity.

Regards, MA
Markus Albertz is offline   Reply With Quote Ignore this user Ignore this thread Ignore this forum
Old 04-09-2008, 10:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
David A. Goldfarb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York, New York
Posts: 12,553
Default

A good deal of contemporary art (as well as a fair amount of not-so-contemporary art) is art about art, so I think that knowing that the original photographs were by August Sander is part of appreciating the work. Not to know that would be like reading half of a book and believing you had read the whole thing.
__________________
Photography-- http://www.echonyc.com/~goldfarb/photo
Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)-- http://www.echonyc.com/~goldfarb
David A. Goldfarb is offline   Reply With Quote Ignore this user Ignore this thread Ignore this forum
Old 04-10-2008, 12:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Montgomery, Il
Posts: 1,610
Default

This is a perfect example IMO of marketing in the art world.
The artist has found someone he could influence & convince that this is art.
In my tiny little mind I find art like this a curiosity & not much more. Unless you're familiar with Sander's work would you recognize the new work as being derived from it? Would you care? Who cares?
__________________
A motorcyclist is the only one who understands why a dog rides with it's head out the window.
John Koehrer is offline   Reply With Quote Ignore this user Ignore this thread Ignore this forum
Old 04-10-2008, 12:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
arigram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crete, Greece
Posts: 4,262
Default

I got through all this agony to get people IN my photographs and a schmuck comes and removes them?
I am sure there are pros working with photoshop charging for the removal of unwanted faces off photographs...
__________________
aristotelis grammatikakis
www.arigram.gr
black & white film is sexy
arigram is offline   Reply With Quote Ignore this user Ignore this thread Ignore this forum
Sponsored Ad. (Subscribers to APUG have the option to remove this ad.)


APUG.ORG Block Ads. (APUG Subscribers have the option of closing this block)
 


  Contact Us - Advertise on APUG - Archive - Top - Site Terms - Forum Rules  
    

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:35 PM.
  
All Content Copyright © 2002-2008 Photocentric Ltd.   Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO APUG.ORG is a division of Photocentric Ltd.
This site is best viewed with a resolution of 1280x1024 (or higher), we recommend using