Sign of the times - EU definition of street photography

[David H. Bebbington]

This street photography competition
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...ws_200766.html
requires signed model releases for every picture with recognizable people!

[Ian Grant]

Is it though.

This is about an organisation making use of the images, and so is quasi commercial, so permission has always been needed.

Ian

[Paul.]

HO hum the usual euro babble then.
Regards Paul.

[pentaxuser]

Easy. A quick wide angle shot of my local market involving maybe 40 people. Then the use of the police to rope off the area and detain all 40 who are then interviewed individually by myself and asked to sign. This exercise to be repeated maybe twice a day until I have 40 who agree and who subsequently of course don't change their minds.

Better still, the police can take all the photos instead. It would save a lot of fuss. In fact the whole competition may as well be sponsored by the police/authorities. Well they would in a totalitarian state so why not here.

It's getting to be like the old joke. Soviet bloc guide who has given an excellent service to the tourists says: "Ladies and gentlemen I must leave you now as I am to be shot". The tourists' faces all fall and they are aghast. The guide seeks to reassure them by adding: Please do not worry, it isn't for anything serious!

I look forward to the organisers having to announce that in this competition no prizes have been awarded as there were no entries.


pentaxuser

[DannL]

Originally Posted by pentaxuser

Easy. A quick wide angle shot of my local market involving maybe 40 people. Then the use of the police to rope off the area and detain all 40 who are then interviewed individually by myself and asked to sign. This exercise to be repeated maybe twice a day until I have 40 who agree and who subsequently of course don't change their minds.

Better still, the police can take all the photos instead. It would save a lot of fuss. In fact the whole competition may as well be sponsored by the police/authorities. Well they would in a totalitarian state so why not here.

It's getting to be like the old joke. Soviet bloc guide who has given an excellent service to the tourists says: "Ladies and gentlemen I must leave you now as I am to be shot". The tourists' faces all fall and they are aghast. The guide seeks to reassure them by adding: Please do not worry, it isn't for anything serious!

I look forward to the organisers having to announce that in this competition no prizes have been awarded as there were no entries.


pentaxuser

Any street photographer with a positive outgoing personality and the most basic of interpersonal skills could work within the restrictions of the contest and achieve results.

Edit: replace "Any street photographer" above, with "Anybody".

[Michel Hardy-Vallée]

Originally Posted by DannL

Any street photographer with a positive outgoing personality and the most basic of interpersonal skills could work within the restrictions of the contest and achieve results.

It's a pain in the neck to ask for model releases, but it can be worthwhile.


http://www.apug.org/gallery/showphot...45&ppuser=6132

Except that you won't be shooting à la HCB.

[arigram]

Freaking european fascists.
Its ok for them to record us in their cameras and microphones but oh no, citizens of democracies cannot possibly exercise their artistic and journalistic rights without proper authorization.
Such laws if taken seriously will kill photography. Bureaucracy is as deadly as
straight prohibition.
Pretty soon all we will able to photograph will be flowers in our homes.

[DannL]

Originally Posted by arigram

Freaking european fascists.
Its ok for them to record us in their cameras and microphones but oh no, citizens of democracies cannot possibly exercise their artistic and journalistic rights without proper authorization.
Such laws if taken seriously will kill photography. Bureaucracy is as deadly as
straight prohibition.
Pretty soon all we will able to photograph will be flowers in our homes.

Oh please. It's just a signature on a piece of paper. It's just a photo contest.

[arigram]

Originally Posted by DannL

Oh please. It's just a signature on a piece of paper. It's just a photo contest.

Oh, really?
Do you think that the decades of photography outside of a studio have been done by giving out papers to sign to people that occupy a scene before its photographed?
Do you go out photographing people in their natural environment or do you gather them in packs in your studio and go through paperwork before you snap a photo?
In an age that every street corner has a camera, every man, woman and child on the street carries a photo-able cell phone snapping each other constantly, TV peep shows that show people going through their lives are watched in mass, do you think its reasonable for an artist to ruin his photography because of useless paperwork?
How do you come by the conclusion that street photography is possible when combined with bureaucracy?

[BobbyR]

Originally Posted by pentaxuser

It's getting to be like the old joke. Soviet bloc guide who has given an excellent service to the tourists says: "Ladies and gentlemen I must leave you now as I am to be shot". The tourists' faces all fall and they are aghast. The guide seeks to reassure them by adding: Please do not worry, it isn't for anything serious!

I look forward to the organisers having to announce that in this competition no prizes have been awarded as there were no entries.
pentaxuser

As Gary Kasparov said in the Wall Street Journal five or so years ago---My country is slowly adapting the best of yours, but your country is rapidly adapting the worst of mine.

Socialism the cancer that keeps on taking.
Bobby